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Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 04 January 2014 07:07:23PM 5 points [-]

we should expect such a change in culture to [result in a] decrease in very exceptional achievements.

Agreed.

We should expect [a] push in the direction of more violence as well.

No. At least not by the arguments brought forth in the post. Young men go for violence because - in the absence of showing off their ability as provider - fight for an alpha male position via force (I will look up references if needed). In the absence of pressure to show ability the violence should reduce by the same amount.

Comment author: BarbaraB 04 January 2014 09:29:32PM 2 points [-]

Young men go for violence because - in the absence of showing off their ability as provider - fight for an alpha male position via force (I will look up references if needed).

Could I have the reference, please ? Very curious about the experimental set-up.

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 04 January 2014 10:06:23PM 1 point [-]

The best I could find quickly online. Not really experimental setups though.

Competitiveness, risk taking, and violence: the young male syndrome: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/016230958590041X

hunter gatherer fighting: http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/3317472?uid=3737864&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21103219067527

TESTOSTERONE AND DOMINANCE IN MEN: http://cogprints.org/663/1/bbs_mazur.html

Comment author: BarbaraB 04 January 2014 10:45:25PM 0 points [-]

Thanks.