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CellBioGuy comments on [LINK] Why I'm not on the Rationalist Masterlist - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: CellBioGuy 06 January 2014 02:19:47AM *  11 points [-]

Any community that claims to be based on 'rationality' runs an extremely high risk of inappropriately automatically labeling opposing arguments to their in-group assessment as irrational and dismissing them as irrelevant. They themselves are inevitably irrational and will make the mistake.

Comment author: passive_fist 06 January 2014 10:56:03PM *  7 points [-]

All of us have biases; that's something that's part of how the human brain works and simply cannot be avoided. The approach taken on LessWrong is not to purge oneself of biases, but to identify these biases and then consciously attempt to work around them in some way. It is implicit in this mindset that one will always have biases whose existence may not even be known. As long as everyone agrees with this, I don't think the community would devolve to that level.

The person who wrote this article has taken the first step - she's admitted to having a lot of biases that prevent her from accepting arguments that oppose her viewpoints. I'd like to see her take the next.

Comment author: ESRogs 06 January 2014 07:24:34PM 5 points [-]

I'm not sure I understand your comment, is the "they themselves" referring to people in the 'rational' community or outside it?

Comment author: CellBioGuy 09 January 2014 12:15:53AM 0 points [-]

The former.

Comment author: ThrustVectoring 06 January 2014 02:38:58AM 14 points [-]

Furthermore, in-groups want to co-opt any 'rationality' movement as their own, so that they have more soldiers to attack opposing viewpoints -- to wit, labeling it as disagreement with the 'rational' point of view. See rationalwiki for a horrific example of this.

Comment author: fubarobfusco 06 January 2014 08:37:52AM 5 points [-]

Moreover, because people are not completely stupid, they probably won't put up a sign saying "I am recruiting soldiers to attack opposing viewpoints!"

Instead, they will point a finger and say "Look, over there! That person is recruiting soldiers to attack opposing viewpoints!"