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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 07 January 2014 05:15:45AM 9 points [-]

And potentially the quality or originality of their comments.

Well, one of the groups is being repelled because certain true statements make them uncomfortable. That is evidence against the quality of their comments.

Comment author: drethelin 07 January 2014 06:17:33AM 14 points [-]

People are allowed to be repelled by true statements. For example, did you know that many people like to have sex with horses? Both men and women! Horses have very large penises and this is something that both intrigues and excites some people. Did you know that horse semen is available for purchase over the internet? I don't think someone who prefers not hear about horse sex is necessarily or even probably a low quality commenter.

Comment author: lmm 26 January 2014 10:43:52AM 5 points [-]

I'll bite your horse penis: I think someone who would get upset or angry at your statement, who would avoid LW because of it, or ask that LW act to stop such statements being posted here, would indeed be a low quality commenter.

Comment author: drethelin 26 January 2014 09:31:12PM 3 points [-]

I sort of agree with you in that I think the highest quality of commenters won't be super squicked out by either horse sex or talking about cranial capacity differences between races or whether a trolley should run over 3 babies or 2 toddlers. But that's too high a bar! I think plenty of people are disgusted by certain topics and it's worth acknowledging that even smart, mostly well reasoned commenters can be scared away or simply feel unwelcome. Reddit can be a home to various mutually hating subgroups because of its structure, but we use a much less divided system and it's worth considering what topics attract what sorts of commenters.

Plus I don't actually want to talk about horse sex all the time as a filter.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 10 January 2014 01:02:19AM 5 points [-]
Comment author: Viliam_Bur 07 January 2014 09:53:59AM *  5 points [-]

Upvoted for making me laugh.

Then I started thinking about how this relates to the six moral foundations, especiallly to the hypothesis that the Purity dimension is only important for conservatives. I mean, if that hypothesis is true, then liberals should insist on discussing this topic as much as possible, to make sure the horses are treated fairly, that people who like to have sex with them are not marginalized in internet debates; and they should insist on discussing technical details to minimize the possible harm resulting from such sex. -- Any objection to this means that the person is not sufficiently liberal, or that the hypothesis of liberals not caring about the Purity dimension is not true.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 08 January 2014 02:01:03AM *  12 points [-]

especiallly to the hypothesis that the Purity dimension is only important for conservatives.

Even Haidt no longer believes this. See the green movement, for example.

Comment author: Lumifer 10 January 2014 01:07:49AM 0 points [-]