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Comment author: Lumifer 07 January 2014 05:43:33PM 6 points [-]

I don't have to expect repercussion for my daily life from speaking my mind.

That rather depends on what's on your mind. Example.

Comment author: ChristianKl 07 January 2014 10:41:32PM 2 points [-]

That a bad example given that the user in question wasn't anonymous. His address was easily found by another person without access to law enforcement resources.

There's definitely speech that can give you problems if it can be backtracked to your identity. In Western society using Tor and not leaking personal information should be sufficient for protecting that kind of speech.

For some kind of speech you have to think more about protecting your anonymous speech by technical means such as Tor than for other kinds of speech.

The guy in the example had the problem that he didn't expect repercussion for his actions and therefore didn't do the necessary protection of his anonymity.

Comment author: Lumifer 08 January 2014 01:21:26AM 3 points [-]

That a bad example given that the user in question wasn't anonymous.

Being truly anonymous on the 'net is harder than most people imagine.

In Western society using Tor and not leaking personal information should be sufficient for protecting that kind of speech.

I am not sure this is the case. Example.

Oh, and in this context what's special about a Western society?

Comment author: ChristianKl 08 January 2014 01:56:12AM 2 points [-]

I am not sure this is the case. Example.

Not an example of speech that happens within a forum.

Oh, and in this context what's special about a Western society?

We have a concepts such as guilty until proven innocent with makes it hard to sentence people based on statistical stylometry data.

The interest in censorship is also lower. It's much easier to simply ignore speech because Western society is more resilient.

Comment author: Lumifer 08 January 2014 02:07:18AM 4 points [-]

Not an example of speech that happens within a forum.

It's an example of someone "using Tor and not leaking personal information".

Comment author: CronoDAS 08 January 2014 04:35:00AM 1 point [-]

We have a concepts such as guilty until proven innocent with makes it hard to sentence people based on statistical stylometry data.

"Innocent until proven guilty" you mean?

Comment author: ChristianKl 08 January 2014 12:02:17PM 0 points [-]

Yes ;)