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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 07 January 2014 07:12:34PM 0 points [-]

They produce at least a little data. This one is admittedly filtered in a bunch of ways, both by internet access and interest in street harassment.

Still, it at least implies that there's a good bit of street harassment, and it's fairly frequent but not constant.

Comment author: ChristianKl 07 January 2014 10:40:03PM 2 points [-]

The survey says: "Nearly 95 percent of female respondents were honked at one or more times and 40 percent said they are honked at as frequently as monthly."

This survey raises the question of what distinguishes those 5% of woman who were never honked at. Is it something like physical attractiveness? Is it about the locating at which the woman is living? Walking around with a confident posture?

If one considers this a serious issue than I would expect that someone has data that answers the question.

If I read about honking, it also not clear how seriously to take it. Sure it's not fun if someone honks at you, but it's not a big deal.

Then there are "sexist comments". If good deconstructivist can label a lot of comments as sexist. You could label the act of open a door and saying: "After the lady." as a sexist comment. I would where I now what the terms means.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 08 January 2014 01:16:04AM 2 points [-]

It wouldn't surprise me if some honks at women aren't noticed by the woman they're directed towards, and some honks are taken to be harassment that are directed at someone else.

It would take some work to design a good survey.

Comment author: ChristianKl 08 January 2014 01:23:08AM 1 point [-]

It would take some work to design a good survey.

Yes. But given that there are woman studies departments at universities and this seems to be a topic they ought to care about, I would expect at least some of those academics do serious work and running good surveys.

Comment author: Lumifer 07 January 2014 07:31:11PM 2 points [-]

They produce at least a little data.

The key term is "useful". They produce some data, but it's likely to be misleading, primarily because of self-selection bias. So, no, you can NOT conclude that "there's a good bit of street harassment, and it's fairly frequent" on the basis of putting up a survey on a web page and keeping it there for a month or two.