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Eugine_Nier comments on [LINK] Why I'm not on the Rationalist Masterlist - Less Wrong Discussion

21 Post author: Apprentice 06 January 2014 12:16AM

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 08 January 2014 03:16:47AM 4 points [-]

Well here for instance.

Comment author: [deleted] 11 January 2014 10:53:01AM 2 points [-]

Which is currently downvoted below threshold.

Comment author: Apprentice 11 January 2014 12:18:53PM 5 points [-]

Chris' comment has, to be sure, around 18 downvotes but it also has around 14 upvotes, so many people probably agree with him.

Comment author: [deleted] 11 January 2014 11:31:15PM *  2 points [-]

Maybe showing (upvotes - downvotes) by default and upvotes/(upvotes + downvotes)*100% on mouseover isn't the optimal way to do it. (Also, this means that “The difference between 55% and 44% seems unimportant, because we don't use majority voting in LW anyway” isn't fully true.)

Comment author: Apprentice 12 January 2014 08:30:14AM 3 points [-]

Good point on majority voting. It matters a lot whether a comment has 18 upvotes and 14 downvotes or 14 upvotes and 18 downvotes. So a relatively narrow majority on polarized subjects can give you important control over the conversation.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 12 January 2014 09:52:33AM 5 points [-]

a relatively narrow majority on polarized subjects can give you important control over the conversation.

The proper way to fix this is to agree to downvote all mindkilled comments regardless of whether they "support our side".

If we cannot agree on this norm... goodbye rationality.

If we can agree on voting on comments by criteria other than "my tribe or the other tribe", then we have a chance for a meaningful discussion.

Specifically:

Someone posts a comment promoting tribe X, without any rationalist merit. -- Proper reaction: downvote.

Someone posts a comment suggesting we need to discourage members of tribe X from participating on LW. -- Proper reaction: also a downvote.