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Comment author: Sophronius 08 January 2014 07:26:09PM *  0 points [-]

As reasonable as that person sounds, I feel the need to point out that IQ differences between race has little or nothing to do with IQ differences between sexes (and even less with rationality, but I guess we gravitated away from that). Even if there is a "stupid gene", to phrase it very dumbly, there is still no reason to believe that someone with 2 X chromosomes would inherit this gene while someone with the same parents but with a Y chromosome would not.

If you (or anyone) want to argue that women naturally have lower IQ than men, I would go with an argument based on hormones instead. Sounds much more plausible to me.

Comment author: hyporational 09 January 2014 07:00:19AM 5 points [-]

If you (or anyone) want to argue that women naturally have lower IQ than men, I would go with an argument based on hormones instead.

Where do you think the differences in hormone levels come from?

Comment author: Sophronius 09 January 2014 11:20:15AM -1 points [-]

Food, genes, certain types of activity such as sports and competitiveness in general, the environment you grow up in, being in a position of authority, to name some factors that influence hormone production.

It's certainly not just the gender divide. If you think that testosterone makes men smarter than women on average, you would also have to accept the conclusion that women with more testosterone than men will be smarter than men on average. All other things being equal, of course.

Comment author: hyporational 09 January 2014 11:44:46AM *  9 points [-]

Testosterone levels in men and women are in completely different ballparks, and there is no overlap in healthy individuals of the different sexes beyond puberty. This would make me think the difference is mainly genetic.

I'm not arguing for anything beyond this point, so we don't have to go there.

Comment author: Sophronius 09 January 2014 12:21:11PM 4 points [-]

I stand corrected on the testosterone levels: The difference is indeed greater than I thought. I will accept that the difference is mainly, but certainly not solely, genetic.