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Comment author: Armok_GoB 10 January 2014 05:03:35AM *  1 point [-]

Suffering is not about damage. I'm not even sure it's about aversion. Suffering seems to be tings like boredom, sadness, and frustration. The best hypothesis I'm found so far is "internal conflict". The primary capability that enables suffering seems to be desire.

Pain and damage doesn't cause suffering; it's wanting to get away from it and being unable to that does. If you feel a jolt of excruciating pain, it disappears entirely when you flinch away, and you negate it's source to remove the risk in the future, you'll probably experience it in a highly positive way.

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 10 January 2014 08:13:38AM -1 points [-]

I agree with that but it just explains words with other insufficiently undefined words (insufficient for the purpose of defining consciousness). I tried to reduce "suffer" to more primitive and unambigous terms. And if you disagree with my proposal please propose in that format.