does have a significant effect on their morally significant property.
But not in any absolute sense, just because this is consistent with your moral intuition.
Last I checked never having existed had a large effect on your ability to have preferences, and your ability to feel please and pain
Not relevant because we are considering bringing these people into existence at which point they will be able to experience pain and pleasure.
I do not care in the slightest that the heroin addicted me would have a strong desire for heroin.
Imagine you know that one week from now someone will force you to take heroin and you will become addicted. At this point you will be able to have an OK life if given a regular amount of the drug but will live in permanent torture if you never get any more of the substance. Would you pay $1 today for the ability to consume heroin in the future?
Not relevant because we are considering bringing these people into existence at which point they will be able to experience pain and pleasure.
Yes, but I would argue that the fact that they can't actually do that yet makes a difference.
...Imagine you know that one week from now someone will force you to take heroin and you will become addicted. At this point you will be able to have an OK life if given a regular amount of the drug but will live in permanent torture if you never get any more of the substance. Would you pay $1 today for the ability to consu
EDIT: Mestroyer was the first one to find a bug that breaks this idea. Only took a couple of hours, that's ethics for you. :)
In the last Stupid Questions Thread, solipsist asked
People raised valid points, such as ones about murder having generally bad effects on society, but most people probably have the intuition that murdering someone is bad even if the victim was a hermit whose death was never found out by anyone. It just occurred to me that the way to formalize this intuition would also solve more general problems with the way that the utility functions in utilitarianism (which I'll shorten to UFU from now on) behave.
Consider these commonly held intuitions: