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How can I spend money to improve my life?

15 Post author: jpaulson 02 February 2014 10:16AM

On ChrisHallquist's post extolling the virtues of money, the top comment is Eliezer pointing out the lack of concrete examples. Can anyone think of any? This is not just hypothetical: if I think your suggestion is good, I will try it (and report back on how it went)

I care about health, improving personal skills (particularly: programming, writing, people skills), gaining respect (particularly at work), and entertainment (these days: primarily books and computer games). If you think I should care about something else, feel free to suggest it.

I am early-twenties programmer living in San Francisco. In the interest of getting advice useful to more than one person, I'll omit further personal details.

Budget: $50/day

If your idea requires significant ongoing time commitment, that is a major negative.

Comments (230)

Comment author: seez 02 February 2014 11:39:47AM 25 points [-]

I think money prevents certain types misery more than it buys happiness.

For example, flights with stopovers and shitty public transportation make me miserable and usually sick. By spending money on direct flights and taxis, I save myself many days of life that would otherwise be lost (I have to travel a lot).

Similarly, knowing I can afford good medical care if I get sick, or find a new apartment if mine becomes unpleasant, or send my kids to a private school if public schools are too useless... these things don't make me deeply happy, but if they were not true, that would make me constantly anxious.

Money is a cushion against disaster. If something goes awry, you can use it to buy medical or legal or technical assistance. However, for me personally it does not cause an actually happy or joyful affect, nor does it seem to buy the things that do (except very indirectly).

Comment author: Tem42 15 June 2016 06:09:59PM 0 points [-]

Since you didn't spell it out this aspect of it: one aspect of this would be to invest in better insurance policies.

Comment author: jpaulson 03 February 2014 03:59:29AM 0 points [-]

The studies on income satisficing (past 75k, more money doesn't correlate with more happiness) certainly suggest that this is true.

But I'm still hoping it's not, and most people just haven't figured out how to buy happiness efficiently. Seems worth trying, at any rate.

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 03 February 2014 04:37:54AM 4 points [-]

The studies on income satisficing (past 75k, more money doesn't correlate with more happiness) certainly suggest that this is true.

And other studies suggest that it isn't.

Comment author: jpaulson 03 February 2014 04:46:26AM 1 point [-]

I think I saw that on LessWrong quite recently. That study is trying to refute the claim that income satisficing happens at ~$20k (and is mostly focused on countries rather than individuals). $20k << $75k.

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 03 February 2014 04:56:43AM 4 points [-]

When we analyze these data more formally in regressions we find no evidence of a significant break in either the happiness-income relationship, nor in the life satisfaction-income relationship, even at annual incomes up to half a million dollars.

Comment author: jpaulson 03 February 2014 05:14:07AM *  1 point [-]

OK, I believe there is conflicting research. There usually is. And as usual, I don't know what to make of it, except that the preponderance of search hits supports $75k as satisficing. shrug

Comment author: [deleted] 08 February 2014 09:58:14PM 0 points [-]

Certain people know how to spend money right and other don't, and for some reason different studies are biased towards different types of people?

Comment author: RolfAndreassen 02 February 2014 08:22:59PM 24 points [-]

If you spend more than 20 minutes on your commute (one way), consider moving to somewhere closer to where you work. Walking distance is ideal, biking distance a good second-best. Commutes literally kill; you will not only get more time daily, but also your expected lifetime will increase.

Comment author: [deleted] 03 February 2014 07:33:57AM 4 points [-]

Walking distance is ideal, biking distance a good second-best.

In certain places, biking is probably even more dangerous than driving.

Comment author: lmm 03 February 2014 07:06:39PM 0 points [-]

Seriously, citation needed; all the claims I've seen are that cycling is dramatically safer.

Comment author: Nornagest 03 February 2014 07:23:27PM *  6 points [-]

Mile for mile, biking is significantly more dangerous than taking a car (as is walking), though not as dangerous as riding a motorcycle. (See here, or here if you're willing to tolerate older data and worse formatting.) You're trading off for physical fitness, though, and the life expectancy gained from increased fitness -- especially if expressed in terms of QALYs -- generally outweighs that lost from increased accident risk.

This undoubtedly varies by location but I haven't been able to find any good data on how. The waters are also muddied a bit by the fact that bike advocacy organizations like to promulgate the life expectancy data without the accident data -- not that I can really blame them, statistical literacy being what it is.

Comment author: btrettel 04 February 2014 11:27:41PM *  5 points [-]

The one study I've seen that looks at the net health effect of cycling came to the conclusion that cycling is a net benefit. Loads of bicycling advocates promote this to suggest that cycling is in general a net benefit for you health. Unfortunately for North Americans, the data in the study came from Europe. Cycling is much safer in Europe. I am not aware of any analysis using data from North America, and I'm unsure whether such an analysis would come to the same conclusion.

With this being said, I ride a bike for transportation. I read studies on safety and actively try to minimize my risk. This includes minimizing my mileage, as the risk is per unit distance. So far, so good. I haven't been in a real crash yet in 4 years of commuter cycling, though I've had plenty of close calls. Worst I can say is that I did once hit a pothole and fall over, but there were no lasting effects.

Comment author: kalium 05 February 2014 06:05:46AM -1 points [-]

SF in particular has been working hard on bike infrastructure improvements that should help with safety. Especially if your commute involves Folsom St.

Comment author: JacekLach 06 February 2014 11:51:02AM *  4 points [-]

Morgan et all (2010) (http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2458/10/699/) estimate 11.1 cyclist deaths per 100000 cyclist-km in London.

Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate) estimates 8.5 road fatalities per 1 BILLION vehicle-km.

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/sep/28/road-deaths-great-britain-data claims 125 motorcyclists died in road accidents for every billion miles travelled - the highest rate for all road users but also a year-on-year fall of 11%.

At 41 deaths per billion miles, the mortality rate for pedestrians was just above that of cyclists (35), with the former a year-on-year rise of 10% and the latter a fall of 6%.

Car occupants had by far the lowest mortality rate at four deaths per billion miles travelled.

Comment author: gjm 14 June 2016 01:12:46PM *  -2 points [-]

London is an exceptionally unsafe place for cyclists. I doubt it's anywhere near so unsafe as to make up all the difference between cycling and driving in those statistics, but I would guess it's at least 10x worse than the average, maybe quite a bit more.

... Ah, wait, I see you have other statistics saying 35 deaths per billion miles cycled, which would be about 21 per billion km, versus 11 per 100k km or 110,000 per billion km in London. So, apparently London is nearly four orders of magnitude worse than average. That's ... more than I expected. Have I misunderstood or miscalculated something?

That "11 per 100k km" figure says that if someone has a 2x5km commute in London that they do 200 days per year, they expect to die about 0.22 times per year; in other words, their life expectancy is a bit less than 5 years. I repeat, London is exceptionally unsafe for cyclists, but I think I'm going to defy the data here. Can it really be that unsafe?

[EDITED to add:] Some other figures I've seen suggest that serious injuries are maybe 20x as common as deaths. That means that my hypothetical 10km/day London cyclist should expect four serious injuries per year. Really?

There are some statistics on the Wikipedia Cycling in London page. For 2014 they report 13 deaths from 610k "daily journeys". Even if a "daily journey" is as short as 1km, that would be 13 deaths per 610k km, which is a lot less than 11 per 100k km. (Though still scandalously large.)

Comment author: Lumifer 14 June 2016 02:36:46PM *  0 points [-]

but I think I'm going to defy the data here.

The paper is doing some weird things. To quote from it:

Fatality rates are difficult to obtain as there is no estimate of the miles cycled per year. We have compromised by providing the fatality rates per 100,000 estimated cyclists per kilometre on the roads of London. However, for an individual cyclist, it would be more useful to know the fatality rate per million miles cycled - a figure that currently cannot be obtained.

Note: cyclists per kilometre.

Comment author: gjm 14 June 2016 03:23:47PM -1 points [-]

No, per 100k cyclists per kilometre; that is, per 100k cyclist-kilometres, which is dimensionally correct. Or am I misunderstanding what it is you find weird?

Comment author: Lumifer 14 June 2016 03:52:28PM 0 points [-]

I only glanced at the paper, but my suspicion is that they are using something like 100K cyclists per kilometre of road, not per kilometre actually cycled. They admit to not knowing the miles cycled, but if you guesstimate the number of cyclists and you know the length of roads in London, you can produce a "cyclists per kilometre of road" metric. I am not sure how meaningful it is.

Comment author: garethrees 14 June 2016 08:03:51PM *  0 points [-]

Deaths per cyclist per kilometre of road is a crazy unit of measurement. I mean, sometimes you have to report the statistic you've got rather than the statistic you'd like, but I don't see what possible practical significance this has.

The statistic we'd like to know is deaths per kilometre cycled. The average person in the UK cycles about 60 km a year (source: Department for Transport) and the population of London is about 8.5 million (source: Wikipedia), so the 19 deaths in 2006 correspond to about 3.5 deaths per 100 million kilometres cycled.

This is slightly higher than the UK average of 3.1 deaths per 100 million kilometres cycled, and on the high side for Western Europe (compare Netherlands: 1.0; Germany: 1.8; France: 3.1; Italy: 3.4).

Comment author: gjm 14 June 2016 09:25:32PM -2 points [-]

Bloody hell, you appear to be right. What a ridiculous figure to be publishing.

I am quite sure how meaningful it is: not meaningful at all.

Comment author: Lumifer 15 June 2016 02:22:51PM 0 points [-]

not meaningful at all

Paging Tony Stark! :-)

Cyclists per kilometre of road is a measure of cyclist density. To do a proper density estimate you also need to know how long (in hours) does an average cyclist spend on the road, but conceivably you can handwave it away as a near-constant. Given this, their approach is to look at the fatalities as a function of the cyclist density.

They are still missing too many variables to produce a useful estimate, but it's not prima facie insane.

Comment author: matt 05 March 2014 10:30:53AM 1 point [-]
Comment author: PECOS-9 02 February 2014 03:56:43PM *  19 points [-]

Improve the ergonomics of your computer situation:

  • Better chair
  • Better desk
  • Keyboard without a numpad so that the mouse doesn't need to be so far out
  • Bigger monitors/multiple monitors
  • If your computer is at all slow or annoying-to-use, consider whether better hardware could help that (and thus reduce the stress of using it). E.g. getting an SSD could decrease load times if you find those problematic

Buy nice clothes

Comment author: 4hodmt 03 February 2014 12:59:26AM *  11 points [-]

Strongly seconding the SSD recomendation. I can't think of anything else that's given so much enjoyment for the money. A SSD dramatically increases perceived performance of a computer beyond what you'd expect from benchmarks. Adding extra ram can hide the latency of a mechanical HD by caching, but it does nothing for worst case performance, and worst case performance is highly salient. I'd much rather use a low spec PC with a SSD than a high spec PC with a mechanical HD. Predictably mediocre performance feels faster than high average performance with high variance.

Comment author: Lumifer 04 February 2014 02:12:01AM 3 points [-]

A SSD dramatically increases perceived performance of a computer beyond what you'd expect from benchmarks.

That really depends on what you are running. In the general case, if you get a LOT of performance increase from an SSD, this generally means your disk cache is way too small and you should start by buying more RAM.

Comment author: kalium 05 February 2014 06:10:54AM 1 point [-]

Not losing data when the computer is dropped or mishandled is an important performance feature if you're clumsy.

Comment author: palladias 02 February 2014 06:21:47PM *  2 points [-]

I'm still really happy with buying a massage cushion (not this one but about this type and price). I bought it shortly after I got my first job, and wanted one, noticed it wasn't too expensive (per massage), and went for it.

It's a nice treat that still feels luxurious and indulgent, so I also desire other indulgent things less.

Plus, I named mine "Adulthood" since I could buy it because I was an adult and my money was mine to do with as I wished. Thus my roommates and I were prone to say things like:

"I never dreamed Adulthood would be so wonderful"
"Sometimes Adulthood is all that keeps me going"

Comment author: TylerJay 02 February 2014 07:43:52PM 15 points [-]

If you wake up before the sun rises (or have blackout shades), would recommendI this gradual-wakeup light alarm clock. I bought it after seeing someone link it on LessWrong. If your morning wakeups are abrupt, I highly recommend this. For the 30 minutes before your set alarm time, it gradually brightens the light. Then if you're not awake yet by the time the sound comes on, it's birds chirping VERY softly that slowly gets louder. I usually actually mistake them for real birds in my half-asleep state. Its a much more pleasant way to get up in the morning and personally, I feel a lot better when I do.

I also have a Vitamix that I use usually twice a day and I absolutely love it. Great quality and really easy to clean.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 04 February 2014 04:43:14AM 2 points [-]

Countersupport: I bought a very similar model, but didn't find it helpful.

Comment author: Antiochus 03 February 2014 03:23:25PM 2 points [-]

Just bought a different model of this last week, because my bedroom is blissfully dark at night, but also dark in the morning, making it more difficult to wake up when I'd like to. I can confirm that it's made a really big difference for easing me out of bed. I don't need the usual snooze routine, or to set a second alarm in a different room anymore.

Comment author: Alsadius 09 February 2014 06:17:55AM *  1 point [-]

I just use two cheap alarm clocks - one set to radio at fairly low volume, two minutes before the alarm on the other one goes off. The former wakes me up and lets me transition to consciousness, the latter kicks my ass out of bed. I find it works well. (This is something you should tailor to personal preferences, of course, but I figured I'd throw another idea in)

Comment author: Tem42 15 June 2016 06:00:00PM 0 points [-]

Another possible work-around; I found that my radio alarm became much more tolerable, and that I woke more gradually, once I started sleeping with a white noise generator (actually an air purifier). This was less intrusive and more effective than simply waking to a very quiet alarm.

Comment author: hyporational 06 February 2014 05:00:59AM *  1 point [-]

I use a set of bright lamps with a timer in the socket. I doubt the graduality would add much benefit, and I get much brighter light a lot cheaper than I would with any wakeup light. These days I also use a set of red lights in the evening before going to bed (melatonin suppressed mostly by blue wave length).

Comment author: ThrustVectoring 02 February 2014 05:44:12PM 15 points [-]

Other people in this thread have gone down the obvious "spend money to pay people to do things you don't like doing but want done" route. My suggestion is to get hobbies. Awesome, awesome hobbies. Sure, there's a time commitment to continue with a hobby, but they can be put down with little ill effect.Here's what I'd start with:

Archery. Buy a bow and some lessons and perhaps a range membership.

Sailing. Sunscreen, clothing, and a Sunfish or other small dinghy. Maybe get lessons as well. I'd start at a lake.

Blacksmithing or welding. Take some fun classes along those lines at a community college or trade school or the like. Alternatively, you can get pliers and some metal wire and make chain mail (this, however, is much more time intensive, but cheap in terms of money alone).

Racing. You'd probably want to start with go-karts and the like.

Sports. Generally cheap and enjoyable.

As far as programming, writing, and people skills go, a big part of improving is spending time on it. Getting paid feedback can probably help as well.

For life-optimization in general, moving to a place closer to work and cutting down on your commute is worthwhile in general. You'd have to do the math to see how much you'd wind up paying for your time.

Getting rid of stuff to maintain is a freebie. Things are option-priced: owning something gives you the right to use it later. It also forces you to either maintain it or lose it. Keep track of the time and money costs as well as how often you use your car, and compare to the costs of renting a car instead.

I'd also recommend laser eye surgery, particularly if you have any amount of astigmatism or are clumsy. Financed over two years, my cost is something like $5/day. And as for clumsiness, well, a significant amount of that sort of thing goes away when things are the same shape across your field of vision. It's anecdotes, sure, but all four people (myself included) that I know that got lasik have better hand-eye coordination and significantly reduced clumsiness. It's hard for me to overstate how valuable laser eye surgery has been. My sister rates it as the third best decision she's ever made, behind marrying her husband and buying a house she loves the daylights out of.

Comment author: diegocaleiro 02 February 2014 06:29:32PM 8 points [-]

choose your hobbies wisely. take ecstatic dance in oakland, for instance. its not very expensive, it will make sure your body stays a little fit, there will be great cahances to socialize and flirt. and you wont die.

compare that with motorcicle racing. it is competitive, male oriented, hard to find time and a place to do it, way more expensive, there are no women, it pollutes the earth, and you have to keep a motorbike in good conditions. not to mention you'll live 15 minutes less per hour ran, according to tegmarks old website.

The advice above of getting hobbies is a good one, but choose activities that are physical, social, and will make you healthy and sexy, unless you really, really, really love playing magic the gathering, like i do, then just nerd your money around and leave the other things to another time.

Comment author: ThrustVectoring 02 February 2014 07:17:24PM 10 points [-]

I completely agree with dance lessons as a worthwhile hobby to consider. The point I was trying to get at is that if you have disposable disposable income and free time and your hobbies are "books and computer games", you've probably not done worthwhile exploration as to what hobbies you enjoy.

Comment author: ChristianKl 07 February 2014 04:28:53PM 1 point [-]

you've probably not done worthwhile exploration as to what hobbies you enjoy.

When doing the exploration it makes sense to analyse the hobby beforehand. Motorcicle racing might be as fun as the ecstatic dance suggestion but it's still a worse alternative because fun isn't the only factor.

Comment author: ThrustVectoring 07 February 2014 05:06:20PM 0 points [-]

It depends on the relative costs of analysis versus just trying it, really. If it takes ten hours to figure out which hobby you want to try first, you could have already tried the top three gut-feeling hobbies out for three hours each.

Comment author: ChristianKl 07 February 2014 06:00:54PM 1 point [-]

If it takes ten hours to figure out which hobby you want to try first, you could have already tried the top three gut-feeling hobbies out for three hours each.

How much do you learn about the value of motorcycle racing by trying it out for three hours? I don't think that provides much valuable information for a decision whether or not to engage in motorcycle racing.

It doesn't provide you any information about accident risks. It doesn't even provide you any information about whether it's fun once you developed a decent ability at it.

Comment author: ThrustVectoring 07 February 2014 08:31:40PM 1 point [-]

I get that some hobbies are better than others, and you can use analysis to figure out costs and benefits. I have a tendency to over-analyze things instead of actually going out and doing them, so I tailored my advice for someone that likely has the same issues (since they've got a list of hobbies that indicates not going out and trying things).

Some people need to spend more time figuring out what hobbies they want and their relative costs or benefits. The people that need this branch of advice have already tried several of the hobbies listed and aren't asking for advice along these lines.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 03 February 2014 05:14:49AM 5 points [-]

A friend of mine got Lasik and deeply regretted it. So you should do lots of research and be sure to get it from someone competent.

Comment author: Kawoomba 03 February 2014 05:24:25AM 11 points [-]

Well, hindsight is 20/20.

Comment author: Emile 03 February 2014 09:15:14AM 7 points [-]

Why does she regret it, specifically?

Comment author: chaosmage 03 February 2014 12:23:49PM 6 points [-]

Since we're already at the anecdote level: A friend of mine saw a LASIK surgeons conference at his university and he says they're all wearing glasses.

Comment author: Username 04 February 2014 10:47:00PM *  8 points [-]

To get away from the anecdote level and bring in an empirical source, LASIK satisfaction rates are at 95.4%. [non-paywall pdf]

Comment author: chaosmage 05 February 2014 10:42:54AM 2 points [-]

Thank you for a very interesting read, and especially for thinking to provide a non-paywall link.

That's the most impressive list of declared conflicts of interest I've ever seen.

Comment author: Randy_M 03 February 2014 07:42:56PM 4 points [-]

That is good evidence, but I'd disbelieve its reliability a bit because it is so funny. Like obese dieticians, or non-rich investment brokers, or divorced marriage counselors.

Comment author: chaosmage 05 February 2014 10:29:31AM 2 points [-]

Excellent point. I'd have difficulty believing this guy too, if he hadn't predicted millimeter wave full-body scanners wouldn't work before anybody in the media knew they wouldn't, based on the fact he'd been building them.

He says the main problem with LASIK is that when you correct myopia with it, your presbyopia (inevitable hyperopia from being over 40) is going to be worse by the same degree that the operation made the myopia better, and you're going to be stuck with it for much longer. Glasses or contacts for myopia you can just take off when you reach that age, but LASIK for myopia will need to be countercorrected. He didn't object to LASIK for hyperopia.

Comment author: Thrasymachus 01 March 2014 06:37:50AM 1 point [-]

One possible reason is that (reputedly, among opthalmologists) one of the side-effects of Lasik is thought to be fractionally worse colour discrimination. Which might be fine for Joe Public, but very bad for people who spend their careers identifying and manipulating sub-milimeter structures.

Comment author: Alsadius 09 February 2014 06:11:38AM 1 point [-]

How much of that is age-related? LASIK doesn't remove the need for reading glasses - it pegs your eyes to 20/20 if done properly, but as you age you lose the ability to alter focal distances, so you're only 20/20 at a particular distance(usually far-field).

Comment author: polymathwannabe 20 February 2014 06:42:36PM 1 point [-]

Because my myopia is too high, laser surgery was deemed unsafe. I had permanent implants instead (they call them phakic intraocular lenses). It has much fewer secondary effects. It cost me 5x what the laser surgery would have, but I had recently got a windfall and it was the best of all things I did with that money.

Comment author: gwern 20 February 2014 07:26:36PM *  0 points [-]

What else did you do with the money? (If the answer is 'I blew it all on a Vegas weekend I can't remember', I will be much less impressed by the implants.)

Comment author: polymathwannabe 20 February 2014 07:50:21PM 0 points [-]

Two words: book fair.

Also, I lived three months without working and helped a roommate with her share of rent during her rough spot (she eventually paid me back). I bought furniture and cold-weather clothes that I needed.

Comment author: hyporational 03 February 2014 03:14:31AM 5 points [-]

I don't remember the exact figures, but the risk of getting a persistent dry eye problem from laser eye surgery was significant enough to make me forget about it. My eyes are already pretty dry, and it's a very annoying inconvenience to have.

Comment author: ChristianKl 02 February 2014 05:54:07PM *  0 points [-]

Archery. Buy a bow and some lessons and perhaps a range membership.

Why? Archery isn't a sport that builds muscle, fluent body movement or produces a high heart rate that helps the heart. To me it seems a suboptimal hobby for a rationalist.

I'd also recommend laser eye surgery, particularly if you have any amount of astigmatism or are clumsy. Financed over two years, my cost is something like $5/day.

That's pricing the risk that it messes up your eye at zero. I don't think that's the right way to go about it.

Comment author: palladias 02 February 2014 06:25:59PM 5 points [-]

Why? Archery isn't a sport that builds muscle, fluent body movement or produces a high heart rate that helps the heart. To me it seems a suboptimal hobby for a rationalist.

Because it's neat! I took glassblowing in college, and (a) it was fun, (b) I get to see glass objects and puzzle out how they were made, and (c) I get to tell people I took glassblowing which makes people do a double take.

(I mean, c'mon, I get opportunities to tell people that one of my final exams in college was making a Hero Engine).

Archery seems similarly likely to make you feel awesome.

Comment author: ChristianKl 02 February 2014 07:45:23PM 1 point [-]

Archery seems similarly likely to make you feel awesome.

Opportunity cost. An improv comedy course does this as well.

(c) I get to tell people I took glassblowing which makes people do a double take.

Years ago I heard an audio book by Jim Rohm in which he made the point that even people without near-death experiences have intersting stories to tell.

I said to myself: "I do have had sort of a near-death experience but I still feel like I have no intersting stories to tell." After that day I stopped making that excuse.

I do have plenty of stories that signal much more uniqueness because they are not easily reconstructed. Everyone can imagine just signing up for a college course or an archery class.

If you want to signal specialness experiences that aren't easily simulated are better.

Comment author: ThrustVectoring 02 February 2014 06:59:43PM 3 points [-]

That's pricing the risk that it messes up your eye at zero. I don't think that's the right way to go about it.

I don't recall the exact numbers, but the risks were sufficiently tiny that I was not concerned about them. Anything that laser eye surgery can do to the outer layers of the eye I fully expect to be fixable in the ~30 year future before age-related eye issues become a problem for me. A great deal of the remaining "messes up your eye" scenarios are fixable by the surgeon. The truly horrific stuff means a malpractice lawsuit (or settlement under threat thereof).

I did some more reading on the risks from the website and handouts from the place I got my eyes done. 7% have their eyes over or under corrected and get re-correction in the first year. Serious complications are much more rare.

It goes without saying that you should do your homework and go to the best place you can find.

Comment author: hyporational 03 February 2014 03:16:45AM 4 points [-]

Persistent dry eyes is probably the most significant risk. Sounds minor, but isn't.

Comment author: AngryParsley 10 February 2014 09:11:48AM *  0 points [-]

The risk of dry eye is because LASIK cuts a flap in the cornea, severing many of the nerves that sense irritation and dryness. Other procedures like epi-LASEK or PRK don't involve cutting into the cornea, so their risk of dry eye is much lower. Unfortunately, those procedures are more painful and take months to heal. They involve scraping the epithelial cells off of your cornea, zapping your eye, and then letting them grow back. On the bright side, there is no flap that can be dislodged by a blow to the eye.

I got wavefront-guided epi-LASEK a few years ago. My vision went from 20/200 to 20/15. It can be pricey ($5k), but it's definitely the best money I've ever spent.

Comment author: Alsadius 09 February 2014 06:08:35AM 0 points [-]

My eyes have gotten noticeably drier since I got laser eye surgery, and I consider it minor - it's significantly less annoying than glasses. I may not have as severe a version as some, though.

Comment author: [deleted] 05 February 2014 06:52:56PM 1 point [-]

Archery isn't a sport that builds muscle, fluent body movement or produces a high heart rate that helps the heart.

Reading novels, playing bridge, or playing the harmonica do none of those things either; would you recommend against these activities too for the same reasons? Hell, even commenting on LW does none of those things! ;-)

To me it seems a suboptimal hobby for a rationalist.

Well, what choice is optimal depends on what one's goals are, “rationalist” isn't a narrow enough category for this purpose, and in any event it's not like each person is only allowed to have one hobby at a time.

Comment author: ChristianKl 05 February 2014 07:11:33PM 0 points [-]

Well, what choice is optimal depends on what one's goals are, “rationalist” isn't a narrow enough category for this purpose

Than I'm happy to hear about which goals you achieve better by taking up archery than by taking up martial arts. For what goals does archery happen to be an optimal solution or even a good one.

Comment author: Antiochus 05 February 2014 09:20:12PM *  1 point [-]

We're kind of kicking at different goalposts here. You're trying to show that archery isn't the best possible use of time (presumably for fitness) and I'm skeptical of your specific claims about it.

A couple things to consider.

  • Archery, by a formal reading of the term, is a martial art.
  • Not all forms of archery and martial arts are made equal. There's considerably overlap in physical requirements. Compare a sport crossbow to an English longbow; compare tai chi to muay thai.
  • I practice martial arts, but not archery. When I had a chance to spend an afternoon firing a longbow with a measly 45lbs draw, I ached in all new places in my neck, arms, core, and thighs. I also needed to coordinate my body in novel ways.
  • Archery is not nearly as demanding for time as martial arts; it can be done in addition to other sports fairly easily.

Hopefully that gives you some idea of why I don't think it's fair to dismiss archery as suboptimal.

Comment author: ChristianKl 07 February 2014 04:20:13PM *  0 points [-]

We're kind of kicking at different goalposts here. You're trying to show that archery isn't the best possible use of time

Given that the whole thread is about ways a rationalist can spend money to improve his life, if archery isn't a good use of your time buying a bow probably isn't good use of your money either.

To the extend that I have used strong words to dismiss archery as suboptimal it's because I dislike the idea of people recommending activities like archery, sailing or go-kart racing without any thought about secondary benefits.

I do think it makes sense to think seriously how about one spends his time. I think I get around 8 separate benefits from dancing.

  1. Fun

  2. Physical Confidence with women. It both provides heavy reaction therapy and an enviroment where it's socially expected that the men leads the woman.

  3. Physical exercise that improves body coordination. I think that leads to more expressiveness in my body language in tasks such as public speaking.

  4. It's a general sport and fits the recommendation that one should do sport to be healthy.

  5. It trains sensitivity of perception what happens physically inside other people.

  6. Practical understand about human physiology that I can't get from a physiology testbook. A limit space to experiment and check theories.

  7. I'm in an enviroment with woman that are potential romantic partners.

  8. I learn to listen to music on a deeper level (but compared to the other points that's not really useful in other stuff I do)

That doesn't mean that I think everyone should take up Salsa. I don't even argue that it's the perfect dance but I do think I have much better reasons for it than were provided here for taking up archery.

Archery, by a formal reading of the term, is a martial art.

I don't care for the semantics.

I practice martial arts, but not archery. When I had a chance to spend an afternoon firing a longbow with a measly 45lbs draw, I ached in all new places in my neck, arms, core, and thighs

Even if it does grow some muscles, it doesn't grow them symmetrically. Good muscle training should train both sides evenly. Having uneven muscles distribution isn't good.

Comment author: [deleted] 05 February 2014 07:13:01PM 0 points [-]

For certain people the former might be more fun (and for other people it might be the other way around).

Comment author: ChristianKl 05 February 2014 09:05:30PM 0 points [-]

For certain people the former might be more fun (and for other people it might be the other way around).

Do you think that's genetic? I think its mostly learned behavior. If you hit a state of flow both will feel fun.

Comment author: [deleted] 06 February 2014 08:25:47AM 3 points [-]

Do you think that's genetic? I think its mostly learned behavior.

I don't know; I'd guess it's both. Why are you asking?

If you hit a state of flow both will feel fun.

Sounds like the fallacy of grey / a fully general counterargument against ever enjoying one pastime more than another other than for its practical benefits. I mean, if you hit a state of flow cleaning toilets will feel fun, too, but for certain people it's easier to hit a state of flow with certain activities than with others.

Comment author: ChristianKl 07 February 2014 12:43:56PM 0 points [-]

but for certain people it's easier to hit a state of flow with certain activities than with others.

That basically means that you don't take up hobbies that need a few months of learning before you are able to hit flow.

I think the average level of fun that a person who's into the hobby for a bit is more important than the level of fun you have when you start a hobby.

I also have control over what I feel. To me it seems much easier to simply choose to enjoy an activity by having control over my own state of mind than to sample a large number of hobbies, hoping that I accidentally find one that's fun.

I admit that the way I gained the belief that I'm in control was highly manipulative NLP but it's now real for me. I guess it's like the issue of believing in ego depletion. (Make a mental note to find someone sooner or later to remove my belief in ego depletion)

Comment author: [deleted] 07 February 2014 01:37:57PM *  0 points [-]

That basically means that you don't take up hobbies that need a few months of learning before you are able to hit flow.

I think the average level of fun that a person who's into the hobby for a bit is more important than the level of fun you have when you start a hobby.

I'm not sure I understand this reply -- these two paragraphs appear to contradict each other.

Also, it seems orthogonal to what I said. How long it takes before the average person is able to enjoy X and how much people vary in how much they'll eventually enjoy X sound like different questions to me.

Comment author: ChristianKl 07 February 2014 03:40:46PM 0 points [-]

How do you decide whether archery is fun for you?You could use the first lesson of archery to make the decision. You could make that decision after a month. I don't think either of those tell you how much you will enjoy it after a year.

To the extend that you can't predict how you will feel after a year you can look at what the average person who takes it for a year feels. That means you don't get to base your decision on how different people enjoy different hobbies.

Comment author: Creutzer 07 February 2014 01:05:08PM *  0 points [-]

Well, okay, so you're a highly unusual individual and on the basis of this, you're arguing about the advisability of various things for other people... Your advice kind of boils down to "become like me", doesn't it? Which, of course, is a whole other issue.

That basically means that you don't take up hobbies that need a few months of learning before you are able to hit flow.

What's wrong with that? First, I have no good evidence that I would, after a couple of months, be able to hit flow with it. Second, I can't and am unwilling to take arbitrary hits to my well-being even for restricted periods of time by engaging for a hobby that makes me miserable for the first couple of months. (Sounds a bit exaggerated, to be sure, but it was exactly what I thought when I read your salsa example somewhere else in the comments here.)

Comment author: ChristianKl 07 February 2014 03:50:10PM *  0 points [-]

Well, okay, so you're a highly unusual individual and on the basis of this, you're arguing about the advisability of various things for other people... Your advice kind of boils down to "become like me", doesn't it? Which, of course, is a whole other issue.

No. My advice is to look at the various possible usages of your time and rationally access which benefits they provide. To the extend that challenge is "please become more like me" I find it surprising that someone raising that objection against myself at lesswrong. Maybe I take some ideas about rationality too seriously?

I don't do martial arts classes (for complicated reasons that don't generalize well to the general population). I don't to improv comedy classes yet you will find that I recommend both of those activities because I consider them high value.

If you aren't a person who's good at telling jokes your first improv comedy classes might not be very funny for you. They might be highly challenging. If you take that to conclude that improv comedy classes are the wrong thing for you, then I think you are missing an experience that will bring you forward.

Comment author: Creutzer 06 February 2014 11:41:51AM 0 points [-]

Still, you cannot just learn at will to find arbitrary things fun. So what's your point?

Comment author: ChristianKl 06 February 2014 01:17:31PM 1 point [-]

Still, you cannot just learn at will to find arbitrary things fun.

Actually, I can if I put effort into it. Especially if the activity has a purpose for myself.

But even if you can't, you won't know how an activity will feel after a year by taking a lesson in it. My first month of dancing Salsa was horrible. In the Salsa community the first months for males get called "beginner's hell". If you only engage in hobbies that are fun the first time in which you engage them I don't think you optimize happiness and more importantly you probably won't engage in activities that challenge your weak area's in a way that makes you improve on a more general level.

Comment author: Antiochus 03 February 2014 03:43:00PM 0 points [-]

Are you sure? Archery requires a lot of strength and full-body coordination. Archers that I know have to do strength training for it. I'm not going to make any claims about how optimal it is, but that seems untrue on its face.

Comment author: ChristianKl 03 February 2014 10:02:23PM *  0 points [-]

Archers that I know have to do strength training for it.

Exactly. Archery doesn't provide strength training if you have to do strength training to do archery. If it would be good at strength training than archers wouldn't need separate strength training.

Yes, there might be some effects but if your goal is strength training I would guess that there are better ways.

As far as full-body coordination goes, archery forces you into being still in a quite unnatural position. I don't think that's what you want to train. A good martial arts or a good dance class provides you with better training.

Comment author: ephion 05 February 2014 03:00:08PM *  6 points [-]

Exactly. Archery doesn't provide strength training if you have to do strength training to do archery. If it would be good at strength training than archers wouldn't need separate strength training.

That's incorrect. Every sport requires additional strength training in order to perform at a high level. Even in strength sports, supplemental strength training is required beyond practicing the sport itself. This doesn't mean that the sport itself doesn't provide a strength adaptation response. Yoga counts as strength training for the sufficiently weak.

In Olympic weightlifting, the contested lifts are the snatch and the clean and jerk. Even minimalistic weightlifting programming involves squatting, and most programs include pressing, rows, deadlifting, and other strength work as well.

Powerlifting is a much simpler sport, testing only the squat, bench press, and deadlift for one repetition. Just practicing the sport would involve doing single reps with squats, bench presses, and deadlifts. Virtually no successful powerlifters train this way. Basically all of them do multiple repetitions on the main lifts, and the majority do other exercises as well.

Comment author: Antiochus 04 February 2014 03:46:50PM *  1 point [-]

That still doesn't seem right to me, but I should point out that a good motivation to do a thing is as valuable as the thing itself, if otherwise you wouldn't.

Comment author: ChristianKl 04 February 2014 09:44:29PM 1 point [-]

Taking a hobby costs a lot of time.

For me I don't see any reason to prefer archery over a martial art. The martial art does provide a bunch of secondary benefits.

Comment author: JacekLach 06 February 2014 01:01:40PM 1 point [-]

For me I don't see any reason to prefer archery over a martial art.

And there might not be any reason to do it for you, but other people might be uncomfortable with hitting other people, concerned about their hands (much easier to break a finger or twist your wrist if you're doing martial arts than archery, I imagine), be looking for a relaxing rather than exciting hobby, etc.

Comment author: djm 03 February 2014 12:24:39AM 12 points [-]

Time is probably the best thing you can buy for the long term. You could consider investing that money and at 5% you'd have almost a million dollars in 25 years - that may sound like a long time, but it would mean you could be financially independent in your early forties and would allow you spend an additional 8-10 hours a day on things you enjoy if you didn't have to earn a salary.

Comment author: free_rip 02 February 2014 08:56:14PM 9 points [-]

Depending on if you have them already, invest in a few tailored pieces clothing that go with a lot and you can wear regularly.

Offer to pay for your friends to come with you to do what you like (for instance if you like ice-skating and you all usually end up at bars, offer to pay for them to come ice-skating with you - they'll be happy to go for free, and you'll get better quality out of your time with them).

Give small amounts to charities you see along the street, if you identify with them (for the warm fuzzies).

Make a habit of buying something nice at a bakery or similar outside work once a week and bringing it in for your colleagues. Chat with them over it.

If you don't have dietary restrictions and are easy about what you eat, get one of those packages where they deliver you recipes and ingredients every week (cut down the time planning, buying and cooking and you can find one that's healthy and balanced - most are by design anyway).

Comment author: drethelin 04 February 2014 04:02:37AM 2 points [-]

Seconding spending more money on comfortable impressive looking clothing.

Comment author: Metus 02 February 2014 01:52:36PM *  9 points [-]

Think about the things you use very often and/or for extended amounts of time. Buy the highest quality version of that that you can afford. For example shoes, chairs, beds, at any one time you will be in one of the three, so buy the best you can afford. Donating to a feel-good charity might also improve your happiness. The exact amount seems to be irrelevant.

Edit: Another possibility is to buy more than you actually need of items you use, like having multiple nail clippers at multiple locations for convenience instead of having to carry out one specific nailclipper.

Comment author: Tem42 15 June 2016 06:05:23PM 0 points [-]

Additional note: give yourself opportunity to make sure that "high quality" is actually "high utility"; I have failed to sleep well on some very expensive mattresses. Paying extra to buy from a company with a good return policy or trial periods is often worth it.

Comment author: Dagon 02 February 2014 12:22:18PM 8 points [-]

Your last line is a good hint to the direction you should be thinking. Find ways to spend money to save time, or improve your experience where you spend a lot of time.

Paying a housecleaner or gardener can free up some time if you don't get value from those activities but do get value from the results. TaskRabbit can get you out of some other errands that fall into the same category (you want done, but don't want to do).

Paying a personal trainer can make your health-improving activities a lot more efficient. Paying for classes is a mixed bag, but can give structure and motivation for learning that you don't get with self-scheduled time.

As a programmer, you may be able to have a more enjoyable and perhaps more effective time at your job if you spend money on equipment rather than limiting yourself to what your employer provides.

Comment author: tgb 03 February 2014 02:04:09PM 6 points [-]

I brainstormed about this for a while and reflected on what past purchases I had made that I liked and hadn't liked. YMMV but here's what I concluded:

  • Incremental upgrades to existing items is rarely worth it unless the existing option is terrible; a nice mouse is only slightly nicer than whatever you're currently using, most of the time you don't really use the extra speed from a faster computer, etc.
  • Conversely, get things that open up new options for you; e.g. a smartphone lets you do computer things in places where you wouldn't before so is better than a new laptop in many case
  • "buy experiences" seems to work; buy a musical instrument and take lessons or other things, learn to bake (and then give away your baked goods to friends)
  • Weather-specific clothes can make some situations much easier: if you're cold, buy something warm. It's not actually hard to stay warm and being prepared means you don't have to worry about what going out and doing things based on the weather.
  • Spending money to remove minor inconveniences can be worth it; if it bothers you every day then change it
  • I buy way more video games than I finish anymore, but still value completing them so I prefer to buy short indie games now
  • I consistently over-estimate fancy new electronics and should correspondingly reduce my expectations for things like, say, the Oculus Rift
Comment author: buybuydandavis 03 February 2014 04:07:16AM 6 points [-]

Get a massage every couple of weeks.

Go to some place to get some serious neuromuscula body work that focuses on posture, alignment, balanced muscular strength and tone. Feldenkrais, Hanna, Pilates, Alexander.

Have regular blood work done. Get basic dna testing, if not a full genome (yet).

Hire a cook to stock your fridge with tasty, nutritious meals for the week.

Comment author: luminosity 02 February 2014 12:02:46PM 6 points [-]

If you want to gain personal skills, a good avenue for spending money is removing distractions that decrease the time you have to devote to these skills. For example, hire cleaners or gardeners to free up the time spent on necessary chores.

Comment author: Dahlen 04 February 2014 12:24:29AM 5 points [-]

If you wear glasses, try switching to night&day contact lenses. I don't know about others, but it's one of the things I most gladly spend extra money on. They're much, much more comfortable than glasses -- you just put them on and forget about your vision problems until you have to change them. There have been days when I had run out of contacts and had to wear glasses, and the experience was horrible compared to what I was used to.

Comment author: drethelin 04 February 2014 03:54:46AM 2 points [-]

VERY strongly seconding this. I wear contacts I can leave in for weeks at a time and it's fantastically better than glasses. You only need to take them in and out rarely compared to regularly contacts, and you never have to worry about dropping or breaking them. You can wear sunglasses or google glass or whatever with no problems, you can go out in the cold without them fogging up, you don't have to worry about them falling off your head if you do martial arts or a cartwheel, and if you have a strong prescription (my contacts are -9) contacts distort your vision a LOT less than glasses of a similar prescription. You don't have to fumble for glasses when you wake up. You get way better peripheral vision. Obviously way better for sex. The list probably goes on.

Comment author: wadavis 04 February 2014 05:43:51PM 2 points [-]

To provide the voice of dissent;

I found them irritating my eyes, more so than other contacts. But I'm from not-humid climate, results may vary on the coast. Also make sure you see your optometrist on schedule, mine recommended I stop using them after two years for eye health reasons.

And to be fair, I second all of drethelin's comments about convenience.

Comment author: drethelin 04 February 2014 07:15:47PM 1 point [-]

This is a very important point, and part of the problem is you can't tell whether you'll get used to putting in and wearing contact lenses without trying it. The first time you do it at the doctor's office will be awkward and probably painful.

Comment author: Dahlen 20 February 2014 10:22:21PM 1 point [-]

The first time you do it at the doctor's office will be awkward and probably painful.

Confirmed. It also used to take an unusually long time to put them on and get them off my eyes. The doctor even let me know that after a while, looking back at how long it used to take me, I'll be surprised/amused by it, after having gotten used to the technique.

Comment author: Aleksander 02 February 2014 06:23:46PM *  5 points [-]
Comment author: [deleted] 03 February 2014 10:28:59AM 4 points [-]

The best ratio of happiness per Euro spent I ever got was from a shower with a rain shower head for about 120€. I imagine a full fledged shower panel with massage showers could give even more happiness but maybe with a smaller ratio.

Another example was spending about 400€ on a Saitek pro flight control and X-Plane 10.

Also vacations probably count. There was this seafood plate I once had on Mallorca ...

Comment author: diegocaleiro 04 February 2014 08:32:06PM *  5 points [-]

Seconding shower things.

Also consider sex toys and sex-shop items.

I carry thermic starbucks glasses around to keep my tea hot in winter and cold in the brazilian summer. Worth it.

Depending on your age, big 5 personality traits, group of friends etc... psychedelic drugs (but not opiates or amphetamines) may be worth their price and time.

Comment author: marchdown 10 February 2014 08:08:03AM 0 points [-]

Aren't psychostimulators, such as amphetamine and its derivatives or modafinil¹, legitimate means for augmenting mood, cognition and productivity? Or are they seriously dangerous? Can you point out some relevant research?

¹ Can modafinil be lumped together with other psychostimulators?

Comment author: edanm 02 February 2014 03:48:40PM *  4 points [-]

General information-getting (most of this is general "stuff I recommend to anyone", but some of it does require money):

  • Get a Kindle. Easily worth its price, if you can afford it.
  • Get books. Much easier to get buy them from Amazon than getting them from anywhere else.
  • Make a subscription to Audible.com and start listening to Audiobooks. Incredible life improvement to be able to turn moments I'm otherwise not mentally occupied, with more time to read.
  • Get stereo bluetooth headphones. These are headphones you can easily stick in a pocket, turn on quickly and start listening to your audiobook. Makes the experience of audiobooks MUCH better.

Some other obvious stuff:

  • Turn money into time. Hire a cleaner/others to do chores you don't want (laundry service that picks stuff up form your house? etc.)
  • Hell, you can probably hire a chef or equivalent to cook great and healthy meals.
  • Use taxis/other expensive but time-saving choices for travel.

Oh, and in general, live closer to your job. Incredibly important, easier to achieve with money.

I've just scratched the surface for now, but that's off the top of my head.

Comment author: brazil84 04 February 2014 11:02:11AM 3 points [-]

The thing is, a lot of the advantages you get from money can be had on the cheap if you are reasonably resourceful. For example, it may be awesome to go out with your family to a fancy restaurant for dinner. But it's almost as awesome (and in some ways more awesome) to plan and cook your own nice meal for your family. At far less expense.

(Note I am referring to your typical middle class American here.)

I do agree that saving on commuting time and inconvenience is worthwhile if you can afford it.

Comment author: Alsadius 09 February 2014 06:42:11AM 0 points [-]

Depends if you like cooking, and if you have the time to do it properly. There's a reason you pretty much only see childless folks Instagramming dinner.

Comment author: Tem42 15 June 2016 06:25:09PM 1 point [-]

I cook today because my mother taught us to cook as kids. Obviously, cooking with a 5 year old is a bit of a burden, but as kids get older they are more helpful, and then you get extra, productive, and positive family time. And then later, older kids can often be convinced to cook the entire meal on their own if they get to choose the menu.

Barely relevant: neither I nor anyone I know instagrams their food. This may be a cultural artifact of your local population. Or of my local population.

Comment author: Nornagest 20 February 2014 07:30:08PM 0 points [-]

here's a reason you pretty much only see childless folks Instagramming dinner.

I'm almost sure this is more a cultural/generational thing than a free time thing.

Comment author: Alsadius 22 February 2014 03:53:24PM *  0 points [-]

That's part of it, I'm sure. But the few folks from the same culture and generation who have kids don't seem to do it.

(This is even more anecdotal than the initial observation, so don't take it too literally)

Comment author: brazil84 09 February 2014 04:24:04PM 0 points [-]

Depends if you like cooking, and if you have the time to do it properly.

That's two separate but related issues. I definitely disagree as to the second issue, as I doubt there's much more time involved in preparing a nice meal than in dining out at a fancy restaurant. Besides, it's not too hard for your typical middle class American to find a couple hours on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon to cook.

As to the first issue, I agree that there are probably people out there who hate to cook, even if it's an occasional special project. Still, those people have other options. For example, I have a family member who doesn't cook; is cheap; and enjoys fine dining. So he finds special deals like restaurant week in New York and enjoys fancy meals for a fraction of the normal price.

To be sure, one could come up with a scenario where there are no special deals available; one hates to cook; and all other options are cut off in some way. And while I agree that may happen from time to time, it does not seem to be the general rule. In my experience, there are usually work-arounds available.

There's a reason you pretty much only see childless folks Instagramming dinner.

What exactly is that reason, in your view? I can think of a lot of possible reasons which do not contradict my claim. I cook perhaps 30 or 40 meals a year with one of my children and it's never occurred to me to Instagram them.

Comment author: Alsadius 09 February 2014 09:03:12PM *  0 points [-]

You can generally keep the kids in line better at an Applebee's than when you actually have to watch the food. (Yes, I know Applebee's isn't a real fancy restaurant, but it's the sort of place most people think of when they think of dining out somewhere nice). And the real competitor to cooking is often pizza delivery or a drive-thru, not dine-in.

IMO, the reason for that is that the meals you want to show off are usually the fancy foodie sort. To pick my most food-photo-friendly friend as an example, she posts things like "My take on wing night: grilled tare duck wings and sesame snap peas and carrot sticks" and "Chili lime chicken lettuce wraps and black bean cheddar quesadillas. #dinner" on a regular basis. One, kids don't know what most of that is, but will still tell you that it must be gross with a certainty that could not be shaken with nuclear weaponry. Two, they tend to prefer eating the same things over and over, which makes your photos really boring. Three, preparing food yourself is more time consuming than preparing it from a box, so lots of parents get out the Kraft Dinner and hot dogs, or the like, and that is again not worth posting photos of. Four, if you do try to get ambitious, usually the kids are involved in the cooking, which makes it more likely to be sloppy, and which is likely enough of a distraction that you don't want to be bothered getting out the camera. (And when you do, you're not showing off the food, you're showing off the kid)

Comment author: brazil84 09 February 2014 09:33:12PM 0 points [-]

You can generally keep the kids in line better at an Applebee's than when you actually have to watch the food.

I don't understand your point . . . are you saying that it's easier to control your children in a restaurant than at home?

IMO, the reason for that is that the meals you want to show off are usually the fancy foodie sort.

Assuming that's true, I don't see how it contradicts or qualifies my point. Can you explain?

Comment author: Alsadius 09 February 2014 11:05:39PM 0 points [-]

I'm saying it's easier to control children when you don't also need to be cooking at the same time.

And that last paragraph was expanding upon the point I was making above, not in direct response to anything you said.

Comment author: brazil84 09 February 2014 11:38:48PM 0 points [-]

I'm saying it's easier to control children when you don't also need to be cooking at the same time.

Ok, so you are saying that it's easier to control children if you take them to a restaurant than if you prepare dinner and eat at home? Right?

And that last paragraph was expanding upon the point I was making above, not in direct response to anything you said.

Well you seemed to be making the following argument:

  1. If you have children, it's not practical to work around the expense of a meal out by preparing food at home because it's hard to prepare food while there are children around.

  2. The lack of instagram pictures of dinner from people with children shows that people who have children face a time shortage while preparing food at home.

I take it you are now abandoning the second point?

Comment author: Alsadius 10 February 2014 01:57:07AM *  0 points [-]

I'm not a parent, but it seems plausible. It meshes with what I remember of being a kid, certainly, and what parent friends say.

Not entirely true. Most of my meals as a kid were home-cooked. But they're not the sort of thing that would generally be considered "nice" - they were mostly repetitive, easy to make, and uninteresting. Most families I'm familiar with, including my own when I was younger, are more likely to go out to a middle-class sit-down restaurant when they want something "fancy" instead of make something ambitious at home(aside from special occasions - Christmas and Thanksgiving are both big fancy-home-cooking events in most families, Sundays in some, but days like that are comparatively rare).

I'm not referring just to cooking at home, but to a particular type of cooking - the fancy meal, not the "box of this, bag of that, and boiling water" stuff that so many families eat regularly. That does the job, but it's not the kind of awesome you were referring to when I made my original post.

Comment author: brazil84 10 February 2014 10:06:38AM 0 points [-]

I'm not a parent, but it seems plausible. It meshes with what I remember of being a kid, certainly, and what parent friends say.

Frankly it seems ridiculous to me. It's a lot easier to control your children at home than out at a restaurant since at home you have access to a wide variety of things the children can do including watching television.

Not entirely true. Most of my meals as a kid were home-cooked. But they're not the sort of thing that would generally be considered "nice" - they were mostly repetitive, easy to make, and uninteresting. Most families I'm familiar with, including my own when I was younger, are more likely to go out to a middle-class sit-down restaurant when they want something "fancy" instead of make something ambitious at home(aside from special occasions - Christmas and Thanksgiving are both big fancy-home-cooking events in most families, Sundays in some, but days like that are comparatively rare).

I'm not referring just to cooking at home, but to a particular type of cooking - the fancy meal, not the "box of this, bag of that, and boiling water" stuff that so many families eat regularly. That does the job, but it's not the kind of awesome you were referring to when I made my original post.

I have no idea what your point is here. Is it your position that if you have children, it's not practical to work around the expense of a meal out by preparing food at home because it's hard to prepare food while there are children around?

Is it your position that the lack of instagram pictures of dinner from people with children shows that people who have children face a time shortage while preparing food at home?

Comment author: somervta 03 February 2014 05:53:44AM *  3 points [-]

IIRC, the most actionable and strong effect in happiness research is to spend much more money on others - giving people things, buying your friends food/drink. The effect does not intensify with price, so buy others lots of little things!

Lukeprog's excellent post on happiness summarized a lot of this research, and although money itself does not correlate particularly strongly with happiness above a certain level, there are a few things there that money could certainly help with - trainers for various things, social life (better clothes, going to more events with people), moving to avoid commute or trying things (e.g various audiobooks) to improve it - so give it a skim and see if anything jumps out at you as suitable.

Comment author: somervta 03 February 2014 05:57:12AM 1 point [-]

Or, if you want more directly related to money, read this.

Abstract:

The relationship between money and happiness is surprisingly weak, which may stem in part from the way people spend it. Drawing on empirical research, we propose eight principles designed to help consumers get more happiness for their money. Specifically, we suggest that consumers should (1) buy more experiences and fewer material goods; (2) use their money to benefit others rather than themselves; (3) buy many small pleasures rather than fewer large ones; (4) eschew extended warranties and other forms of overpriced insurance; (5) delay consumption; (6) consider how peripheral features of their purchases may affect their day-to-day lives; (7) beware of comparison shopping; and (8) pay close attention to the happiness of others

Comment author: CronoDAS 02 February 2014 09:26:46PM 3 points [-]

Random thought 2:

The next time you get a car, get one with a thermostat. It's an uncommon option and I don't know how much it costs, but the Ford Taurus my parents bought off the lot happened to have one. In other cars, the heat and air conditioning tend to overshoot, leaving me cold in the summer and hot in the winter on long trips.

Comment author: Alsadius 09 February 2014 06:24:23AM 1 point [-]

Turn down the heat/AC once the car has reached temperature? It's been -10C or so here for most of the last month, and I turn the heat down halfway on any long road trips, because blasting it for more than 20 minutes is silly. It's really easy to get a thermal equilibrium with a traditional car thermostat.

Comment author: CronoDAS 11 February 2014 05:20:57AM 0 points [-]

I often don't notice it's okay to turn it down until it's already overshot. :(

Comment author: ciphergoth 02 February 2014 03:37:39PM 3 points [-]

Obvious, but: if you don't already, hire a cleaner.

Comment author: James_Miller 02 February 2014 06:28:09PM 2 points [-]

This didn't work out well at my household as supervising them took more time than it was worth.

Comment author: Miller 03 February 2014 03:10:13AM 1 point [-]

Theft? Inferior Service?

I'm having a hard time guessing what this could be that you couldn't just look for someone with better references (or spend a bit more).

Comment author: kalium 03 February 2014 04:39:22AM 6 points [-]

Other people have Wrong intuitions about Where Things Go.

Comment author: James_Miller 03 February 2014 03:12:06AM 3 points [-]

They would ask questions and move things and we had to be home when they where here.

Comment author: ciphergoth 03 February 2014 01:00:02PM 1 point [-]

Our cleaner just does the kitchen and bathroom, so we don't really have to tell them anything!

Comment author: [deleted] 03 February 2014 01:46:14PM 2 points [-]

How are your savings for retirement?

If you have no retirement savings, you can set some up at an easy to use online brokerage: Your early twenties is a great time to start, managing your retirement account doesn't really have to take a large amount of time, and 50 dollars a day should cover initial expenditures.

Also, at 29, I personally enjoy fiddling around with my retirement account... although it took me a while to figure out the right settings for myself and I did have some initial panics when it was smaller, I wasn't as familiar with the pros and cons of various investment types, and one of my stocks had gone down quite a bit. Now that it is bigger and much more well diversified, it's more fun.

Comment author: jpaulson 04 February 2014 08:24:55AM 2 points [-]

Yeah, this is a priority for me. My plan is to stick my money in a few mutual funds and forget about it for 40 years. Hopefully the economy will grow in that time :)

Comment author: Alsadius 09 February 2014 06:40:40AM 0 points [-]

Don't forget to put some of it in a reserve fund that's invested conservatively and easily accessible, and ensure that you're covered in case of disability. Also, diversify between market sectors - an index fund is good and all, but the usual index fund is 100% US, and you want some international exposure.

Comment author: kalium 02 February 2014 09:25:17PM 2 points [-]

One of the things that improved my life most after moving to SF was buying a good bike and using it for nearly all my transportation needs. More fun, less stressful, and much healthier than driving or public transit. You want a road bike, not a mountain bike, here, since extra weight makes a huge difference going up hills.

Comment author: diegocaleiro 04 February 2014 08:40:21PM *  -1 points [-]

Strongly in favor of the mountain bike, I'll bet 50 bucks Kalium is just assuming the road bike is better without ever having the option, or he lives in a really flat area and is a very fit person.
I've been biking for 8 years around the city, in a huge city.

1) First goal should be don't die. Thus you should actually use the sidewalk as often as possible (regardless of whether that is legal, or is the law worth all your future experiences?) Bikes are incredibly dangerous, but awesome fun.

2) Second goal should be don't strain your back and feel constant pain. Keep an upright posture with a mountain bike, you will (a) see more of the world around you (b) get more delicious wind in your face (c) require a lower activation energy to decide to bike, since you won't need any special biking shorts, gloves or things other than a helmet.

3) Third goal is exercise. It goes without saying that a heavier bike (which you will never, ever notice because no options will be there to be compared, so no hedonic onus) will exercise you more.

4) Fourth goal is look good: an upright posture will help you with that.

Comment author: btrettel 04 February 2014 11:05:28PM 5 points [-]

This may seem counterintuitive, but the riding a bike on the sidewalk is more dangerous than riding in the road. The reason why is that drivers tend not to check the sidewalk for fast moving traffic. Your probability of being hit in intersections increases greatly. See the "right hook" diagram on this website for an illustration. There are a number of studies that confirm this, for example, this 1992 study showed that cyclists riding on the sidewalk have 1.8 times as great risk as cyclists riding in the road.

Comment author: Antiochus 05 February 2014 02:29:55PM *  2 points [-]

Upvoted. A lot of cycling safety is counterintuitive. Being hit from behind is not as big a risk as people think while cycling, and behaving as predictably as possible (ie like a car) will keep you alive.

Comment author: Lumifer 04 February 2014 09:05:31PM 1 point [-]

You are arguing for what Wikipedia calls a "European city bike". Mountain bikes are quite different and, in particular, you don't ride them upright.

Comment author: diegocaleiro 04 February 2014 09:29:27PM *  0 points [-]

I'm actually arguing for tall stem mountain bikes (yes there are many of those). I am also in favor of the European ones and would use the same arguments, thanks for the reminder.
Stem being the part where your hands go (which I didn't know 5 minutes ago).

Comment author: kalium 05 February 2014 07:19:12AM -1 points [-]

So, about that bet. Was that meant seriously, and if so what evidence would I need to supply that I either (a) have tried both a mountain bike and a non-mountain bike or (b) either (i) live somewhere not really flat or (ii) am very fit?

Comment author: kalium 05 February 2014 05:44:43AM *  -1 points [-]

No, I actually brought a mountain bike with me when I moved to San Francisco this summer. It was a pain in the ass so I bought a road bike.

  1. Riding on the sidewalk is incredibly dangerous and stupid. Despite being obnoxious about bike paths and such, the vehicular cyclists are right about a lot of things.

  2. I do like my upright handlebars. More wind resistance but very comfortable. You can get these for a road bike. Though if riding a road bike with standard handlebars gives you constant pain you're probably doing something wrong. The distance between handlebars and seat, or the angle the seat, may be incorrectly adjusted for your body size. (Edit: So I guess my bike, which I bought used so I don't know as much as I should about it, might not be quite technically a road bike. The tall stem seems to be the only really non-road-bike-like feature though. And I certainly appreciate that it weighs about half what my mountain bike did.)

  3. I don't want a heavier bike for more exercise. I want to get places quickly and comfortably and not arrive smelly or sweaty.

Comment author: Armok_GoB 05 February 2014 08:16:19PM 1 point [-]

A more ergonomic computer setup. It's highly surprising how very much it can do for both comfort, health, and performance. Tons of low hanging fruit that people miss. If you spend as much time as it sound siting in the same spot every day it really should be a no expenses spare kind of deal. For most applications I'd even consider it more important than the actual hardware in the box.

You really should look it up more in depth and/or ask someone who knows this stuff at a semi-professional level, but I'll summarize roughly some points.

The most important part is how you sit. Get a really good professional quality chair, a large surface for input devices, and mount your screen(s) on arm(s) or other device that make them easily repositioned. Adjustability is key in all of these, everything should be independently movable and the purpose is to enable you to sit right without discomfort or effort, but you member that you still have to actually do so.

There are advantages to standing instead of siting, but since you cant do that ALL the time in order to enable it you need motorized table legs. Or at least thats how I did it.

The other stuff is more posible to just go on what feels and look right; big screens but more importantly high colour quality, and the purpose is not to cover you entire visual feild but rather enabling having them further away and so straining your eyes less. I've personaly found using an extremely hgih precision mouse and cranking the acceleration up to crazy levels matter more than shape or weight; I rarely have to more it more than a centimeter. Making your enviroment nice looking and uncluttered can have a concrete impact and of corse light levels and avoiding both glare and eyestrain from to much contrast helps. Oh, and for bayes sake use headphones not speakers; you probably know some audiophile that can give better instructions then me on the specifics of that.

My current setup: Ergotron dual arms, big IKEA glass table with motorized legs to raise or lower. Wireless keyboard. Wacom Intuos tablet double as my main mouse. 2x identical screens, forgot the exact specs but they're good. Entire room designed carefully around the computer with bed thrown in as an afterthought. Bunch of electrical supply stuff and lights. High quality voice chat and music headset. Bunch of stuff I forgot or is to minor to bother listing.

Comment author: hyporational 06 February 2014 04:34:04AM *  2 points [-]

There are advantages to standing instead of siting, but since you cant do that ALL the time in order to enable it you need motorized table legs. Or at least thats how I did it.

I just put a small table on top of a bigger table. Switch the place of the keyboard/laptop/book. It seems to me that if you stand enough the expected utility of a super chair is pretty low, maybe even negative if it makes you sit more. I still dream about getting one to be honest though.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 03 February 2014 08:38:38AM *  1 point [-]

Not sure about specific details, but I have a feeling that it is easy to make a mistake of thinking about "what is easy to buy & would be convenient". Sure, it is great to pay someone else to do your dishes, but is that really the best way to convert money into awesomeness?

Instead I would recommend making a specific plan about becoming more awesome, and only then to search for a specific point of the plan where extra money can give me the greatest bonus. For example, let's say I want to become a rock star. I can pay someone to do my dishes, which will give me more free time, which I can spend playing the guitar; and that is useful. But maybe it would be more useful to spend the money on the guitar lessons, on musical instruments, on someone to research what is the best way to play the music or where is the best opportunity on the market, or even on someone to regularly remind me to play the guitar.

In other words, if you have decided on a best way to use your money to improve your life before having a specific plan of what you are going to do, it is probably not the best way.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 03 February 2014 08:07:16AM 1 point [-]

fish oil supplements do not have the same efficacy as actually eating fish regularly. You can get sashimi grade salmon surprisingly cheaply delivered to your house.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 03 February 2014 05:11:59AM *  1 point [-]

Some ideas:

However, it seems worth noting that at a certain point you will have purchased all of the low-hanging fruit and it will be harder to improve your quality of life, etc. through additional purchases. I'm also an early 20s computer programmer in SF; most of the items listed above are purchases I made in the past year, and I still had a lot of money left over.

I think a more compelling selfish case for making more money is that you can use it to buy vacations. I'm too unselfish to do this but it sounds like fun.

ETA: I think the approach taken in this thread is a bad one if you're actually trying to optimize your life. You're better off starting with goals (e.g. be happy or live long) and work backward from how to achieve them rather than starting with the question of how to get rid of all the money you're earning. If the best way to achieve your goal seems to require willpower maybe use your money to hire a life coach.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 03 February 2014 07:57:40AM 7 points [-]

Pepper spray is not a magic force field against arbitrary assault.

Comment author: lmm 03 February 2014 07:12:37PM 5 points [-]

Arbitrary assault is (for most people) much less likely than you instinctively think. If a placebo adjusts your emotional reaction to something more appropriate to the actual risks then it's a good buy.

Comment author: Alsadius 09 February 2014 06:35:25AM 1 point [-]

Thing is, there's lots of places in the world to explore that aren't sketchy. Unless sketch has appeal, why bother taking even a comparatively small risk?

Comment author: lmm 09 February 2014 03:46:31PM *  -1 points [-]

Shrug. If you don't enjoy going such places then by all means don't. But my impression is that generally most LWers advocate seeking out "exciting" experiences rather than the safest possible hobbies.

Comment author: Nornagest 03 February 2014 06:17:47AM 0 points [-]

Nice clothing (http://www.makeyourownjeans.com/ to get custom-designed jeans that fit really well

This is pretty cool if it's legit, but something about it looks a bit sketchy to me. Particularly for the leather stuff; materials cost there is high enough that a $100 leather coat is pretty much automatically suspect. (Lower-quality and reconstituted leather can be that cheap, but they react very poorly to wear.) What's your experience with the site?

Comment author: ephion 03 February 2014 02:45:04PM 2 points [-]

I have no personal experience with that site, but that's mostly because reddit's /r/malefashionadvice thinks they're terrible.

Comment author: jsalvatier 06 February 2014 08:25:36AM 2 points [-]

They are correct. I bought some jeans from them early in my fashion development and they're not very good. /r/malefashionadvice is great though.

Comment author: Daniel_Burfoot 03 February 2014 01:43:58AM 1 point [-]

If you save up a fair amount of money, you can take a substantial amount of time off from work (say 6-12 months), and use it to do something awesome like travel around the world or read the great books or both.

Comment author: polymathwannabe 20 February 2014 06:38:38PM 0 points [-]

That's an enormous IF for many jobs.

Comment author: 4hodmt 03 February 2014 01:14:01AM 1 point [-]

I find it's well worth spending money on reliability and low maintenance for things you use regularly. I cycle as my main form of transport, and I spent extra money on a good set of internal hub gears. The only maintenance required is a yearly oil change. The time needed to clean and adjust derailuer gears probably isn't much, but the subjective feeling of reliability is valuable for me. Likewise, I use tires with strong puncture protection. I'm confident that I can set out to cycle at short notice and arrive at my destination at a predictable time.

The same principle applies to computers, eg. reducing the number of moving parts, having good filters at air intakes, buying reputable brands for parts even with no direct performance benefit (eg. power supplies). I have less computer problems than people I know who buy purely on cost:performance ratio.

Comment author: CronoDAS 02 February 2014 09:30:05PM 1 point [-]

Random thought 4:

Do you have any pets? It can be very nice to live with a cat or a dog.

Comment author: [deleted] 03 February 2014 10:44:46AM 1 point [-]

That kind of defeats the "no longterm commitment" thing.

Comment author: jkaufman 04 February 2014 04:20:17PM *  6 points [-]

If you call a shelter they're often happy to have people look after one of their dogs or cats for a while.

(EDIT: Julia and I did this for a while in 2010 when we wanted a cat but couldn't commit to keeping one.)

Comment author: Alsadius 09 February 2014 06:29:34AM 0 points [-]

Be aware that giving an animal back to a shelter is often a very good way to kill it. Generally, they assume that there's something wrong with it, and it doesn't get much of a second chance before it's put down to give space to others that don't have a black mark.

Comment author: jkaufman 09 February 2014 04:50:40PM 2 points [-]

I'm not talking about adopting a pet and then returning it; instead you explicitly ask them "would you like me to look after one of your pets for [time interval]?" This temporarily expands their capacity, and you returning it later doesn't tell them something's wrong with it. (Well, it does tell them the pet wasn't so awesome as to overcome your defenses and make you adopt it, but I think most people who do this really can't adopt.)

Comment author: Alsadius 09 February 2014 08:09:25PM 0 points [-]

Fair. I've just heard horror stories, and I wanted to make sure those reading weren't inadvertently adding to them.

Comment author: kalium 10 February 2014 04:39:11AM 0 points [-]

I had a couple friends who would foster kittens from the shelter and house-train and socialize them for a few months, and then either the shelter or some other agency would find a more permanent home for them. I don't know the details but this is a thing you can do.

Comment author: Baughn 03 February 2014 10:54:24AM 0 points [-]

It's still one of the best ways to improve your happiness.

Hell, I'm getting a lot of the same effect from pet fish.

Comment author: CronoDAS 02 February 2014 09:24:11PM 1 point [-]

Random thought 1:

Get a 3-channel or 5-channel sound system for your TV and/or computer. My father didn't know what he was missing until he did, and now he thinks it's great. Cost: $1000-2000.

(The reason we got one in the first place is kind of weird: my father likes to watch Blu-Ray movies, but many of them had sound that was totally out of balance: the sound effects were blasting but the spoken dialogue was barely audible. Online research indicated that this was partially a result of converting from 5.1 surround sound to stereo sound; in 5.1 sound, the sound effects come out of the side speakers but the dialogue would come out of the center speaker. Our surround sound system lets us turn up the center speaker and turn down the side speakers, fixing the problem, but before we got it, our hardware's conversion algorithms controlled the balance for us - and did it poorly.)

Comment author: DanielLC 02 February 2014 05:47:18PM 1 point [-]

The obvious thing is to hire a therapist. They're the experts, right?

Comment author: CAE_Jones 02 February 2014 11:09:23AM *  1 point [-]

Since I don't have $50/day type money, I would do these things if I had it:

  • Buy healthy food.
  • Buy exercise equipment, or a gym membership.
  • Put enough away until I could hire an accountant/start a business and/or nonprofit / etc, or at least hire people for the parts of my various projects I cannot handle alone or with too low charisma to amass an army of reliable volunteers.
  • Due to my disability, the amount of independence I have and the amount of money under my control are likely to correlate. I can't know for sure without being rich, but money would let me travel more freely, hire people who know what they're doing if ever I need assistance, pay Meta Med to point me toward the most likely cure, and in the meantime, buy all the accessibility gadgets I can't currently afford/justify asking the government to pay for.
  • Healthcare! Life insurance! I'm still not completely convinced regarding cryonics, but it's not like I could afford it even if I was.
  • Books. Books are orders of magnitude more expensive for me than you, but the same principal applies. I have a good decade worth of books I haven't been able to read, and if I suddenly had the money to get them...
  • There's probably useful training I could buy, I dunno. My communication and charisma need work. Purchasing power means I can shop until I succeed.

And that's just the list I could make without stopping to draw breath (If I stuck to the identifiers rather than descriptions). I suspect I could come up with more, given a little effort. Even if I don't move, my trailer could use some serious work, not to mention a security system.

While some of those are luxury type things, most of them are serious health / quality of life-related, and boons to rationality besides (good health and books and access to more people seem like they'd help on that front, at least).

Comment author: CronoDAS 02 February 2014 09:31:55PM 5 points [-]

Books. Books are orders of magnitude more expensive for me than you, but the same principal applies. I have a good decade worth of books I haven't been able to read, and if I suddenly had the money to get them...

Assuming this is a money issue and not a time issue, your local public library can get you almost anything via interlibrary loan.

Comment author: garabik 05 February 2014 01:56:36PM 3 points [-]

Assuming this is a money issue and not a time issue, your local public library can get you almost anything via interlibrary loan

And there is this thing called internet where you can get a lot for free - and in some jurisdictions and under certain conditions it is even perfectly legal.

Comment author: Creutzer 05 February 2014 02:03:18PM 0 points [-]

Reading a novel on a computer screen sucks.

Comment author: jaime2000 05 February 2014 02:38:06PM *  1 point [-]

The Amazon Kindle is very cheap ($70-$210 depending on the exact model and features you want; assuming you buy one every 2-5 years, it is a trivial expense for all but the most destitute).

Comment author: garabik 07 February 2014 10:07:23AM 0 points [-]

Cheap low end tablets cost around €30. Their parameters and battery life suck, but for indoor reading they are acceptable. And as a bonus you can do more things with them (such as using tap-and-search dictionary if you are often reading in foreign languages).

Cheap e-book readers are a bit more expensive, from €40 up.But they weight less and their battery life is vastly superior.

Still, if your genre preferences are somewhat "traditional", IMHO public library is the way to go.

Comment author: polymathwannabe 20 February 2014 06:46:07PM 0 points [-]

My mileage strongly disagrees with yours.

Comment author: mbitton24 06 February 2014 05:15:43AM 0 points [-]
Comment author: shokwave 03 February 2014 04:35:09PM 0 points [-]

Turn your money into time; that is, purchase modafinil.

Comment author: James_Miller 03 February 2014 04:57:57PM 2 points [-]

Doesn't work for me. I feel much worse for a about a week after using it.

Comment author: shokwave 03 February 2014 06:01:36PM 2 points [-]

My sympathies; I find it wonderful.

Comment author: Username 04 February 2014 10:55:14PM 0 points [-]

Or, if the legality is an issue because you need e.g. security clearance for your job, adrafinil.

Comment author: Creutzer 03 February 2014 07:39:07PM 0 points [-]

I'm not sure if stimulants are adequately described as turning money into time. They generally speed up time perception, meaning that you experience the same period of time as subjectively shorter. Sure, you get more stuff done in it, but still... The formulation is perhaps misleading.

Comment author: ChristianKl 06 February 2014 08:40:47AM 1 point [-]

People on modafinil manage to get by with less sleep. Whether or not it's long-term healthy to cut down your total sleep with it is however another question towards which I don't know the answer.

Comment author: Nornagest 03 February 2014 07:55:50PM *  1 point [-]

I'm not a pharmacologist, but my understanding is that modafanil, while a stimulant in the technical sense, doesn't produce the kind of diffuse CNS activation you seem to be alluding to.

I am a little skeptical about some of the more dramatic claims regarding the drug's capabilities, but this isn't a reason why.

Comment author: shokwave 04 February 2014 06:27:28AM 0 points [-]

It was a tongue-in-cheek suggestion to begin with (an amusing contrast to all the others saying 'turn money into time'), but modafinil has a unique claim to "buying time": it lets you function just as well and usually better than average, on less sleep. A more thorough analysis

Comment author: Error 02 February 2014 07:15:21PM 0 points [-]

My favored option is buying durable goods, especially labor-saving devices. $50/day surplus is enough to make one significant purchase (say, a laundry machine or a good-quality item of furniture) each month, for a noticeable long-term improvement in comfort. I don't like spending money in ways that will have to be repeated regularly.

That's my own plan for the next year, anyway; until recently, I spent my surplus paying down debts. (which, incidentally, you should do first if you have any, but I assume since you're asking that you do not.)

Comment author: jpaulson 03 February 2014 04:13:46AM *  1 point [-]

Do you have ideas for durable goods? My apartment has a laundry machine, and I can't think of a piece of furniture I would want.

Comment author: Alsadius 09 February 2014 06:15:51AM 0 points [-]

Dishwasher? You can get portables pretty cheap.

Comment author: Error 04 February 2014 12:43:35AM 0 points [-]

Well, just going by our own list: king size bed, sofa, office desk, a good office chair (Aeron?), file server, office desktop. Not necessarily in that order. We live in an apartment that provides washers/dryers/dishwashers/etc, but if we had a house, those would be on it, at the top.

Comment author: jkaufman 04 February 2014 04:28:54PM 0 points [-]

A cloud file service (Dropbox, Google Drive, etc) gives similar benefits to a file server with more use of money and less of time.

Comment author: Error 04 February 2014 08:44:27PM 0 points [-]

Correct. In fact for most people it's probably both faster and cheaper, going by my Googling of Dropbox's prices. I just don't have the sort of use profile such services were intended for. E.g. I do things like mount /home over NFS from multiple machines, and that's not something I want to do at anything less than local speeds, even if my files would fit in whatever the highest tier plan is. (which they don't)

(I also run my own DNS, a VPN bridge between my home and a couple family members, and several other unnecessary but interesting things. I'm in IT; it's just what I do. The file server referenced above is actually going to be a homemade SAN if I have my way.)

Comment author: lmm 02 February 2014 06:12:00PM 0 points [-]

Eat well, and go out often. Books and games are better as low-cost entertainment, but my experience is one comes to appreciate social entertainment more.

Comment author: ChristianKl 02 February 2014 05:57:21PM 0 points [-]

I don't know whether there a good way to purchase training for people skills in San Francisco for $50/day. I would guess that most seminars are over that price point. What you could buy for that budget might be improv comedy classes.

Comment author: [deleted] 02 February 2014 11:16:40AM 0 points [-]
  • hire a tutor to teach you programming.

  • hire someone to search/ check out entertainment stuff that you might like. ( works best if the person likes the same stuff you do.)