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Comment author: ChristianKl 07 February 2014 12:43:56PM 0 points [-]

but for certain people it's easier to hit a state of flow with certain activities than with others.

That basically means that you don't take up hobbies that need a few months of learning before you are able to hit flow.

I think the average level of fun that a person who's into the hobby for a bit is more important than the level of fun you have when you start a hobby.

I also have control over what I feel. To me it seems much easier to simply choose to enjoy an activity by having control over my own state of mind than to sample a large number of hobbies, hoping that I accidentally find one that's fun.

I admit that the way I gained the belief that I'm in control was highly manipulative NLP but it's now real for me. I guess it's like the issue of believing in ego depletion. (Make a mental note to find someone sooner or later to remove my belief in ego depletion)

Comment author: [deleted] 07 February 2014 01:37:57PM *  0 points [-]

That basically means that you don't take up hobbies that need a few months of learning before you are able to hit flow.

I think the average level of fun that a person who's into the hobby for a bit is more important than the level of fun you have when you start a hobby.

I'm not sure I understand this reply -- these two paragraphs appear to contradict each other.

Also, it seems orthogonal to what I said. How long it takes before the average person is able to enjoy X and how much people vary in how much they'll eventually enjoy X sound like different questions to me.

Comment author: ChristianKl 07 February 2014 03:40:46PM 0 points [-]

How do you decide whether archery is fun for you?You could use the first lesson of archery to make the decision. You could make that decision after a month. I don't think either of those tell you how much you will enjoy it after a year.

To the extend that you can't predict how you will feel after a year you can look at what the average person who takes it for a year feels. That means you don't get to base your decision on how different people enjoy different hobbies.

Comment author: [deleted] 07 February 2014 08:34:31PM 0 points [-]

How do you decide whether archery is fun for you?You could use the first lesson of archery to make the decision. You could make that decision after a month. I don't think either of those tell you how much you will enjoy it after a year.

So what? If in a year's time I no longer find archery fun, I'll still be allowed to stop doing it. And in any event it's none of your freakin' business.

(I don't actually do archery in real life BTW, though I do have a few hobbies that don't build muscle, fluent body movement or produce a high heart rate that helps the heart, such as for example commenting on Less Wrong.)

Comment author: ChristianKl 07 February 2014 08:49:14PM -1 points [-]

And in any event it's none of your freakin' business.

If we have a discussion about the value of engaging in activities and spending money for it, why is it not my business to discuss that value?

Comment author: [deleted] 07 February 2014 08:51:12PM *  1 point [-]

Tapping out. (EDIT: I didn't downvote.)