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Comment author: drethelin 08 February 2014 05:05:12AM 7 points [-]

They might have a small point in that evolution assumes that human beings, no more than any other individual animal, are not fungible: they each carry different genes that express as varying traits. The latest euphemism, "human biodiversity", is particularly galling gibberish. Biodiversity has an established meaning that you don't get to usurp. Last time I looked, humans were not facing any obvious genetic bottlenecks. There aren't really many that count as relict cultivars of tomatoes or goats. Efforts to preserve diversity in human genomes seem.... unnecessary. When they go extinct, it won't be for lack of genetic diversity; just that intelligent life is a self-limiting phenomenon.

As with much on rationalwiki, it's just dismissive rather than a logical argument or evidence. We have clear evidence of relatively recent genetic influences on human evolution in Lactose Tolerance and both Tibetan and Andean adaptations for high altitude. Not to mention HBD isn't an attempt to "preserve" the diversity but to actually acknowledge it.

Comment author: Emile 08 February 2014 09:14:03AM 0 points [-]

Not to mention HBD isn't an attempt to "preserve" the diversity but to actually acknowledge it.

That's precisely the author's point: the two usages are different enough that using the same word looks like a cheap rhetorical trick.

Comment author: drethelin 08 February 2014 06:56:32PM 2 points [-]

shrug. That's at best a nitpick. It's a minor side issue to whether what HBD proponents talk about is actually true or if true how it's relevant. Everyone is guilty of all sorts of cheap rhetorical tricks. One could even say that attacking a movement, the implications of which are potentially EXTREMELY important on a semantic point is a rhetorical trick, and not an expensive one at that.