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Comment author: MarkusRamikin 18 February 2014 10:54:25AM 0 points [-]

Polish (or Polish-speaking) people help me out here: do we even have a word for mathematical odds? I distinctly remember learning about it in math class, but I can't for the life of me remember what the old hag called it, bless her grumpy soul. And the fact that this page... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odds ...has all those equivalents in other languages, but not Polish, is starting to make me seriously fear that we just don't have a word for it.

While we're on the subject, what words would you use to differentiate "proof" from "evidence" in Polish? Seems "dowód" is the only thing we have...

Comment author: Aleksander 19 February 2014 06:54:29PM 0 points [-]

While we're on the subject, what words would you use to differentiate "proof" from "evidence" in Polish?

"Poszlaki"?

Comment author: Tenoke 18 February 2014 12:39:41PM *  -1 points [-]

http://translate.google.com/#en/pl/odds

I really hope I am missing something and this isn't a sufficent answer to your question.

Comment author: MarkusRamikin 18 February 2014 01:28:08PM *  2 points [-]

Yeah, tried that, and none of these words seem to be it. The word "kurs" does mean odds but only in a gambling context; it also means "exchange rate" when applied to currencies, it's that kind of a financial word. I'm looking for what a mathematician would use.

Different languages don't carve reality the same way (which is why I find wikipedia a better dictionary than the piece of relative uselessness that is Google Translate, because if I understand both articles then I can be sure I have the right word for my meaning), but I'm still sure such a word must exist because it's a specific thing in mathematics. That's why I posted in the dumb questions thread. ;)

EDIT: Aha. "iloraz szans". Can't remember ever hearing this term, but at least I know now why it's not linked to from the English article - because Polish wikipedia in its wisdom decided it's not worthy of its own article, and buried this info in an article about logistic regression.

Comment author: tut 18 February 2014 02:09:08PM 0 points [-]

What word do people who bet on horses use? Is there a difference between mathematical odds and gambling odds (other than what things you talk about odds for?

Comment author: MarkusRamikin 18 February 2014 03:30:04PM 0 points [-]

I don't bet on horses, but I figure they'd use "kurs". And the word means more the relation between bets and payoffs than the mathematical probability of winning, so it kinda makes sense that it's a different word.