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adamzerner comments on [Open Thread] Stupid Questions (2014-02-17) - Less Wrong Discussion

3 Post author: solipsist 17 February 2014 05:34AM

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Comment author: adamzerner 19 February 2014 06:01:10AM *  1 point [-]

Is there a formal fallacy of taking something that's overrated, and concluding that it sucks? (Because you overreact to the fact that it's overrated)

Comment author: Locaha 19 February 2014 06:56:43AM 5 points [-]

We can call it Hipster Fallacy, maybe?

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 19 February 2014 09:04:37AM 2 points [-]

Seems like a specific case of reverting stupidity (but that's not a formal name).

Comment author: polymathwannabe 20 February 2014 02:20:14PM *  1 point [-]

Perhaps specific examples could help. Can you name something that is clearly overrated and clearly doesn't suck?

Comment author: adamzerner 20 February 2014 04:44:23PM 2 points [-]

Good point!

Someone who thinks that looks are overrated, and then concludes that they don't matter at all.

Someone who thinks that a basketball player is overrated, and then concludes that he sucks.

Comment author: polymathwannabe 20 February 2014 05:34:44PM 1 point [-]

Most of my friends are big fans of heavy metal, but I abhor it ardently. I can match your example by saying heavy metal is unduly overrated, plus I do happen to think it sucks. One part of my head feels inclined to say that a judgment of sucking is a necessary component of the judgment of overratedness. However, I also think Finding Nemo is overrated, but I don't think it sucks. This leads me to think there are degrees of overratedness; i.e. my tastes place Finding Nemo on a much higher position of enjoyability than all of heavy metal.

My friends who love heavy metal will accuse me of committing your proposed fallacy; they could say I'm not justified in saying heavy metal sucks just because it fails to please me. But if someone else says Finding Nemo sucks, I won't blame them, even if my dislike for it doesn't go that far.

It's difficult to name a formal fallacy of personal tastes. It's one thing to detect a flaw in matters of true/untrue, but quite another to say that there can be flaws in matters of like/dislike.