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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 25 February 2014 05:03:50AM 7 points [-]

According to the vast majority of social just types, you have just signaled yourself as a quite serious enemy. At the very least you would get banned from any site you posted this on. At worst you would probably be blackballed and quite roundly thrashed in social media.

Is this supposed to be an argument against Mestroyer or against the Social Justice Types?

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 25 February 2014 05:29:07AM 9 points [-]

But his response, typical of a certain class of rationalist is so offensive to social justice types

This is a problem with the social justice types being too mindkilled, not a problem with Mestroyer's logic.

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 25 February 2014 06:05:36AM * 5 points [-]

Are you arguing that its merely the intensity of the response that makes them mindkilled?

The intensity of the response is what makes them mindkilled. Of course, if the social justice people were actually willing to listen to people who disagreed with them, they might realize that Mestroyer is in fact correct about existential risk being more important that their issues.

Edit: In fact, if they listed to more criticism, they might realize that the net harm from most of their issues is at worst negligible and at best negative, i.e., it is the social justice movement itself that is doing net harm.

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 25 February 2014 06:22:35AM 3 points [-]

You'd be hard pressed to convince me that cryonics is more beneficial to people of color than dismantling the systematic bias against people of color inherent in western society.

Well, there is a very simple reason cryonics is more beneficial than "dismantling the systematic bias against people of color inherent in western society", namely, that the "systematic bias against people of color inherent in western society" doesn't actually exist. If anything modern western society has a systematic bias in favor of people of color.

Here's a hint: the people who told you that there exists "a systematic bias against people of color inherent in western society" believe that lying is justified for the cause, and they were either lying to you or repeating someone else's lie.

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