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Comment author: ChristianKl 03 March 2014 11:18:07AM 1 point [-]

A secular Jew might feel a certain draw towards establishing a homeland in the Palestine just in the same way that a secular American might have felt a certain draw towards Manifest Destiny.

Yes, but I think when you go down and think about how much utility those projects have you will find that there are things that are more important.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 03 March 2014 11:25:51AM *  3 points [-]

Sorry, I misunderstood your question. I thought it was asking about secularism rather than lack of consequentialism.


I think even conditional on someone posting on LW, questions along the line of "why are you spending resources on X rather than preventing UFAI" are not a great way to spread the message, in my opinion.

Comment author: ChristianKl 03 March 2014 12:07:08PM 0 points [-]

I think even conditional on someone posting on LW, questions along the line of "why are you spending resources on X rather than preventing UFAI" are not a great way to spread the message, in my opinion.

The main point I'm wanting to make isn't that he should work on UFAI but that he should actually think about what utility his Zionism has.

I think if he actually sits down and thinks about the utility he will find somewhere to focus his time and energy where it has a bigger effect. Whether or not that cause is UFAI is secondary.

I also don't think I'm damaging the course of UFAI by talking like this while on LW. I don't believe that you should be shy when new people enter your community.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 04 March 2014 12:32:33PM *  1 point [-]

I also don't think I'm damaging the course of UFAI by talking like this while on LW.

You do realize what "spend money on this flying saucer we are building" pattern-matches to, correct? You can't just close distances like this for people.

Comment author: ChristianKl 04 March 2014 01:37:39PM 0 points [-]

I think a lot of nerds have a problem with being to shy. That leads to issues such as Why Our Kind Can't Cooperate.

You can't just close distances like this for people.

I don't think it's my responsibility to close distances for other people. A good community should be a place where people want to belong and make the necessary work to belong to the community.