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That sounds completely awesome! I've always imagined that sort of lifestyle, but it always felt too abstract. Reading your description has helped my understanding become more concrete and vivid. Thanks you.
Ok, so the following is the state of my beliefs and understanding. In a way, I feel rather confident in it, because I've done a good amount of reading into other arguments, and after doing so I still think my reasoning makes more sense. But on the other hand, I definitely notice confusion, enough such that I wouldn't describe myself as "very confident". I wrote about it a bit more in depth here and here, which you might be interested in. It's about as well as I could articulate it without spending weeks writing and researching.
Summary - Morality is sort of a question asking about what you should do. Someone might say, "you should do X" or "you shouldn't do Y". My response - "should requires an axiom". You can only say, "you should do X... in order to achieve this end". Or "you shouldn't do Y... in order to achieve this end". The way people use the word, they're usually referring to an end implicitly.
Then there's the question of "well, what should the end be?". Which is circular. Consider two things though:
1) Preferences
2) Goals
Your Preferences are what produce the most desirable "mind-states". Imagine a thought experiment where you take a person, stimulate his brain to produce a bunch of different mind-states and have him rank them according to how preferable they are. This is what I'm mean by Preferences.
Goals are what you choose to strive towards. For example, you may choose to strive towards being a good mother, even if it doesn't maximize your Preferences.
You could choose whatever Goals you want. Preferences are pretty fixed though (seemingly).
Anyway, I don't think there's really an answer to "what Goals should you choose?". You have to say, "what Goals should you choose... in order to achieve this end". Goals are arbitrary. Rationality is about doing the best job you could at achieving the Goals you choose, but it doesn't help you actually choose them (because they're completely arbitrary). I've heard attempts to side-step this, and I've never been convinced. But like I said, there might be something I'm missing (I really hope there is).
Some people frown on a lack of ambition.
To be practical:
Also, Ambition can be poison (one of my favorite posts). I think it's a very slippery slope. Personally, I've fell pretty far down the slope and am trying to climb back up a bit.
Also, I thought your posts were well-written, so if you recommend any others, I will read them :)
Interesting, thanks for the feedback. I hope you're being honest. I have a bit of a hard time judging the quality of my own writing.