Look at what warfare was like in China or Japan before major Western influences (not that is was much better after Western influences).
Vastly inferior to, say, warfare as practiced by 14th-century England, I'm sure. I also point you towards the Rape of Nanking.
Compare that with any group besides "The West". They would do much worse things and not even bother angsting about it.
You are comparing modern westerners with historical Buddhists. Try considering contemporary Buddhists (the group it is blindingly obvious I was referring to, given that the discussion was about the present and whether contempary non-western groups all lack moral qualms about torture).
I observe that you are being defensive.
Vastly inferior to, say, warfare as practiced by 14th-century England, I'm sure.
I meant the modern west. However,
I also point you towards the Rape of Nanking.
Which was committed by people who were (at least theoretically) Buddhists.
given that the discussion was about the present and whether contempary non-western groups all lack moral qualms about torture
We were? In the comment of mine that started this discussion I wasn't just referring to contemporary groups.
However, let's restrict to contemporary states. I take it you count the historical...
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