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Comment author: [deleted] 31 March 2014 08:39:14PM 0 points [-]

That is because the billiard ball doesn't have sufficient inner complexity and processes.

I agree that your (a)-(c) are necessary (and maybe sufficient) conditions on having free will.

The problem arises when your model of your model goes from iniuition (sensation of free will) to symbolic form which allows detection of the logical inconsistencies at some higher modelling level.

What do you mean by this?

sensation of free will

To my knowledge, I've never had this sensation, so I don't know what to say about it. So far as I understand what is meant by free will, it's not the sort of thing of which one could have a sensation.

Comment author: shminux 31 March 2014 09:33:53PM *  0 points [-]

To my knowledge, I've never had this sensation, so I don't know what to say about it. So far as I understand what is meant by free will, it's not the sort of thing of which one could have a sensation.

Further to the other subthread, I suppose what most people mean when they talk about the sensation of free will is imagining multiple possible worlds and feeling control over which one will become actual before it does. Do you not have this?

Comment author: [deleted] 31 March 2014 09:59:58PM *  0 points [-]

I suppose what most people mean when they talk about the sensation of free will is imagining multiple possible worlds and feeling control over which one will become actual before it does. Do you not have this?

I wouldn't call that a sensation or a feeling, but yes. I do think I act freely, and I can recall times when I've acted freely. If I don't have free will, then I'm wrong about all that.

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