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Comment author: ArisKatsaris 01 April 2014 07:14:41AM 0 points [-]

Fiction Books Thread

Comment author: Prismattic 03 April 2014 03:21:03AM 5 points [-]

I've been on a bit of an alternate history kick recently. I can recommend both Scott Westerfeld's Leviathan-Behemoth-Goliath young adult steampunk v. biotech alternate World War One trilogy, and Ian Tregillis' Bitter Seeds-The Coldest War-Necessary Evil demonologists v. bioengineered ubermenchen series. (Neither is rationalist fiction in the sense of having super rational characters, but it is realist fiction in the sense of character's making mistakes for bias-related reasons.)

Also, I seem to recall seeing Yvain say something on his blog recently about being surprised that many of the people he knew who reference Lovecraft haven't actually read him. For those who aren't aware of it, all of Lovecraft's solo-authored work in chronological order is available as a free e-book here.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 05 April 2014 06:48:24PM 0 points [-]

You might like Celestial Matters by Richard Garfinkle-- ancient Greek metaphysics is true. Greece becomes a world power, and the story is about an expedition to the sun to get elemental fire. Taoist alchemy is also true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_Matters

Comment author: polymathwannabe 03 April 2014 07:20:10PM 0 points [-]

Thanks a million. I've been looking for a Lovecraft omnibus for ages.

Comment author: gwern 01 April 2014 03:45:09PM 5 points [-]

Fiction:

Also, may I take a moment to strongly recommend Ted Chiang's short stories?

Comment author: David_Gerard 01 April 2014 12:55:35PM *  2 points [-]

A Confederacy Of Dunces by John Kennedy Toole. An amazing and hilarious novel. Believe the hype.

(If you've ever been annoyed by neoreactionaries, you'll delight in the main character. "A king? You want a king? Boy, nobody wants a king! Ignatius, are you sure you're OK?" First noted on Metafilter. I see one neoreaction fan who classifies it as "Red Pill fiction" ...)

Comment author: gwern 01 April 2014 03:29:41PM 0 points [-]

A Confederacy Of Dunces by John Kennedy Toole. An amazing and hilarious novel. Believe the hype.

Counter-recommendation: I found it vastly overrated and OK at best. (Review)

Comment author: David_Gerard 01 April 2014 10:39:09PM 0 points [-]

I think the Internet could still do with "oh, my valve!" as a meme.

Comment author: Lumifer 02 April 2014 01:04:48AM 0 points [-]

Too much contamination with Steam and Half-Life and Portal and...

Comment author: DaFranker 02 April 2014 03:02:44PM 0 points [-]

It'll be Valve Soon™ before everyone understands that one...

Comment author: whales 01 April 2014 07:44:09PM *  1 point [-]

The Last Samurai (2000) by Helen DeWitt. (Not related to the film with Tom Cruise.) About genius, rationality, art, and their limits, among other things. From one perspective it's both an argument about and an example of the creation and appreciation of art being valuable and exciting. Highly recommended for LWers.

If you want a better idea of the book, try the summary on Amazon. Save the horrifying Wikipedia book report for after you've read the novel if you want a good laugh.

Comment author: edanm 01 April 2014 07:43:07AM 0 points [-]

Just finished Brandon Sanderson's book "Words of Radiance". It is the 2nd book in a (projected) 10-book series, and came out last month.

I thought it was a wonderful book. It developed the story from "The Way of Kings", some parts in obvious ways, but also in some new and unexpected ways. The world that Sanderson developed for this series is clearly huge, with many different actors and sub-stories going on.

Also, one sub-story in particular was very fun for me as an LW'er. I'm talking about: Gneninatvna, naq uvf VD punatvat rirel qnl (rot 13'ed).

Btw, I love Brandon Sanderson's work. It combines very "realistic" magic systems with awesome characters, and an epic back-story. I highly recommend reading the Mistborn trilogy, I consider it the finest fantasy work around.

Comment author: [deleted] 02 April 2014 04:15:58AM 1 point [-]

It is the 2nd book in a (projected) 10-book series,

Is he high?! He already knows what happens to people who start 10-book series.

Comment author: edanm 02 April 2014 09:28:09AM 0 points [-]

It gets worse. Most of his fantasy novels are actually connected into one world (called the Cosmere).

He guesses there will be a total of 30-40 books in this world.

Btw, for anyone that doesn't know, Brandon Sanderson was chosen as the author of the final Wheel of Time books, the ones that came out after the original author Robert Jordan passed away. So yeah, he knows what happens to people who start 10-book series.

Comment author: ChristianKl 01 April 2014 02:12:09PM 0 points [-]

It combines very "realistic" magic systems with awesome characters, and an epic back-story.

What does "realistic" magic systems mean?

Comment author: edanm 01 April 2014 04:36:16PM 2 points [-]

What I meant by that was:

The magic system is basically comparable to him inventing a world with extra laws of physics. The magic is usually well understood, at least eventually, and is basically treated like just more physics.

E.g. (ROT13'd for minor spoiler): Bar bs uvf obbxf pbagnvaf n flfgrz gung, jura crbcyr qevax inevbhf xvaqf bs zrgny, gurl ner noyr gb "ohea hc" gur zrgny gb tnva pregnva cbjref, sbe rknzcyr, gryrxvarfvf. Guvf vf irel jryy haqrefgbbq naq hfrq, lbh haqrefgnaq gur zntvp, gur yvzvgf, vg erdhverf fbzr xvaq bs ryrzrag gb cbjre vg, rgp. Va bgure jbeqf, vg fbhaqf yvxr ryrpgevpvgl jbhyq fbhaq gb fbzrbar jub qbrfa'g xabj nobhg vg.

Guvf vf abg gur xvaq bs zntvp flfgrz jurer enaqbz crbcyr ner noyr gb qb guvatf juvpu lbh arire ernyyl haqrefgnaq, naq gung ner oneryl hfrq. Guvf vf zber n jbeyq jvgu rkgen ryrzragnel sbeprf.

Comment author: GuySrinivasan 01 April 2014 02:53:05PM 1 point [-]

Sanderson’s First Law of Magics: An author’s ability to solve conflict with magic is DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL to how well the reader understands said magic.