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Gunnar_Zarncke comments on How Tim O'Brien gets around the logical fallacy of generalization from fictional evidence - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 25 April 2014 06:41:26AM 1 point [-]

"You can tell a true war story if you just keep on telling it." He always says war story, but the principle generalizes.

I have read about half of that PDF and I see where it is getting. The part of a story which describes something true from real life. Which doesn't want to entertain but educate about some truth of life has to follow this pattern. That is the generalization.

Compare with e.g. HPMoR: The fictional world has a plot and may have a morale. But the truth in there is in true concepts and those are represented in fairly comparable way to the 'war stories'. Explanations of scientific methods are just that: Incomplete explanations. And for example the guessing and double guessing of Harry and Quirrell never clearly resolves. That is a truth of real life strategy. I hope it carries over to last arc.

Comment author: mszegedy 25 April 2014 05:13:39PM 2 points [-]

Are you sure you understood the point? I am highlighting a writing technique where you write the same short story over and over again slightly differently to convey a probabilistic model to the reader in a way that is interesting. HPMoR is not quite this; it's a different story every time, with a different lesson every time, that is treated as a sequence of events.

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 26 April 2014 01:33:20AM 0 points [-]

Ah yes. There are at least two aspects in the 'war stories': The 'probabilistic' aspect which indeed I didn't mention and the 'no plot, no sense' part which I do see in the failure to double guess and the confusion it leaves the reader in.

One could argue though that as this is repeated and repeated between Harry and Quirrell and thus kind of probabilistic.