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Nornagest comments on May 2014 Media Thread - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: polymathwannabe 08 May 2014 07:41:13PM 0 points [-]

I'm reading World without End, by Ken Follett. It's the sequel to his superb The Pillars of the Earth, which is a marvel, but you don't need to have read the first to savor the second.

What surprised me about World without End is the amount of characters who openly defy the mindless obedience to dogma that you'd expect in a typical Medieval town. I've only read until the 100-ish page, and there's already a clever plotting mother, an aspiring doctor, a carpenter apprentice, all willing to question conventional wisdom and try new ways to do things. It's been refreshing so far.

Comment author: Nornagest 08 May 2014 07:51:01PM *  2 points [-]

If the Canterbury Tales taught me anything, it's that medieval people could actually get pretty creative and irreverent when it came to things they cared about. It's the institutions and the background assumptions that are different. Individual people often weren't all that dogmatic, and indeed enforcement of societal norms was weaker in a lot of ways than it is now; but above the individual level, almost every organization was narrowly focused on the status quo or on zero- or negative-sum games. There was nothing forward-looking in the way that science is, or even in the way that serious utopian politics is.

(It also taught me that fart jokes are perennial. A lot of those scenes wouldn't have been out of place in South Park.)