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Error comments on Arguments and relevance claims - Less Wrong Discussion

28 Post author: Kaj_Sotala 05 May 2014 04:49PM

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Comment author: Error 05 May 2014 09:54:56PM *  5 points [-]

I often find this distinction frustrating, in that people will sometimes jump to attacking what they believe is my relevance claim before making any kind of judgement on the truth or falsehood of my argument. And then they're wrong about the relevance claim. (if there even is one. Sometimes I'm just nitpicking.)

I have a sneaking, unverified suspicion that a lot of these cases of mutual misunderstanding are..."unconsciously deliberate" is the phrase that comes to mind, although that doesn't seem quite right. They're ways for both parties to walk away convinced that they're right, without either being required to legitimately engage (and thereby risk turning out to be wrong). For bonus points, both parties can honestly accuse the other of intellectual defection if they bring it up again later!

Comment author: Khoth 06 May 2014 09:32:39AM 4 points [-]

I often find this distinction frustrating, in that people will sometimes jump to attacking what they believe is my relevance claim before making any kind of judgement on the truth or falsehood of my argument. And then they're wrong about the relevance claim. (if there even is one. Sometimes I'm just nitpicking.)

That sounds like it's sensible behaviour. If your argument doesn't really matter, they're probably better off not bothering to judge its truth or falsehood, instead spending their time and attention on something else. (Especially in a group setting where multiple people are making counterarguments, and it's better to engage with the real objections than to get bogged down dealing with pedants and derailments)