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-16 Post author: adamzerner 13 May 2014 09:46PM

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Comment author: adamzerner 14 May 2014 12:38:45AM 0 points [-]

The latter seems to require that we are, or have, something like souls that, despite their immateriality and apparent complete inaccessibility to any sort of scientific investigation, are the true bearers of our identity and consciousness.

That's not what I mean by "remaining". Consciousness could exist on some small quantum or string level, or other small level we haven't even discovered yet. It's possible that this level is undisturbed when we die, and that we continue to be conscious. And it's possible that as we continue to be conscious, we can't communicate it to living people.

Comment author: polymathwannabe 14 May 2014 12:52:22AM -1 points [-]

Consciousness could exist on some small quantum [...] level...

Absolutely not. Consciousness is not that basic, and it definitely doesn't belong in the fundamental structure of reality. You're making a huge leap that ignores several levels of organization (in order: atomic, chemical, biological, computational). Consciousness depends on the pattern of neurons communicating inside our heads; examining a single neuron nucleus in the microscope (or taking one of its carbon atoms into a collider) will miss consciousness entirely because you've set the magnifying glass too close to get the pattern.

Comment author: adamzerner 14 May 2014 12:57:27AM *  2 points [-]

I'm familiar with the current scientific literature on the neural correlates of consciousness (I was a neuroscience major and did my senior thesis on it). But these are correlates. We indeed don't know of any correlates on a level smaller than the neuronal level, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

Comment author: polymathwannabe 14 May 2014 01:01:10AM 0 points [-]

Elsewhere on this thread you also said,

we don't have the data that shows that the 3 possibilities I mentioned in the post don't occur.

Are you seriously going to posit a belief in the afterlife just because neurology can't prove a negative?

Comment author: adamzerner 14 May 2014 01:04:00AM *  0 points [-]

Are you seriously going to posit a belief in the afterlife just because neurology can't prove a negative?

No, I'm just saying that it's possible, not that I believe in it.

Comment author: polymathwannabe 14 May 2014 01:09:02AM -1 points [-]

Not with quantum consciousness. That's not even in "possible" territory.