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Comment author: Houshalter 14 May 2014 05:19:07PM 3 points [-]

The issue is that it could create bad incentives. E.g. motorcyclists not wearing helmets and even acting inappropriately around self-driving cars, knowing it will avoid them, even if it causes it to crash. Or people stop buying safer cars because they are always chosen as "targets" by self-driving cars to crash into, making them statistically less safe.

I don't think the concerns are large enough to worry about, but hypothetically it's an interesting dilemma.

Comment author: roystgnr 15 May 2014 04:03:30PM 6 points [-]

When I was a dumb kid, my friends and I regularly jaywalked (jayran?) across 3 lanes at a time of high speed traffic, just to get to a nicer place for lunch. Don't underestimate the populations of stupid and selfish people in the world, or the propensity to change behavior in response to changing incentives.

On the other hand, I'm not sure how the incentives here will change. Any self-driving car is going to be speckled with cameras, and "I know it will slam on the brakes or swerve to avoid me" might not be much temptation when followed with "then it will send my picture to the police".

Comment author: Transfuturist 15 May 2014 06:48:08PM 0 points [-]

Aaaaand now you brought privacy controversy into the mix.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 16 May 2014 01:42:18AM 1 point [-]

In a completely reasonable way. If your driving strategy involves making problems for other people, that's intrinsically a non-private activity.

Comment author: Lumifer 14 May 2014 06:05:52PM *  5 points [-]

acting inappropriately around self-driving cars, knowing it will avoid them, even if it causes it to crash.

Ah, an interesting possibility. Self-driving cars can be gamed. If I know a car will always swerve to avoid me, I can manipulate it.

Comment author: Nornagest 14 May 2014 05:35:44PM *  2 points [-]

I doubt if self-driving cars would have to choose between crashing into two vehicles often enough for these considerations to show up in statistics.