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Comment author: buybuydandavis 02 June 2014 01:39:47AM 1 point [-]

Really? It started with the sequences? A different kind of site than I assumed. No wonder people have their panties in a bunch over being called a phyg.

I'm not an old timer here. 3 or 4 years now. Sucked in by HPMOR.

I am an old timer to the web, though. I had my first web site back around 93 or 94. Fringe philosophy site. I scanned in obscure essays and books to make them available to others.Sure made a great commercial decision there, didn't I?

Back in my day, it was all mailing lists, listservs, and Usenet. A few people connected on a topic, or splintered from some existing group, and started their own list. It was a discussion, usually of a lot of grad students, hashing out ideas. A list focused on some bozo posting his weekly pontifications would have seemed rather, um, phygish in that era. I guess it's a little more the norm these days.

Anyone want to make me feel young, and tell me about how in their day, it was all bboards? No?

after that the site regulars noticeably ... backed away from extrapolation from the sequences.

Would you elaborate? Noticeably... backed away? Self consciously and purposively backed away? Why?

Then HPMOR lured in more newbies, who stuck around a bit but there have been no new chapters in a while.

And none today too. Ugh!

Comment author: David_Gerard 02 June 2014 08:02:19AM *  1 point [-]

I'm not an old timer here. 3 or 4 years now. Sucked in by HPMOR.

Me since late 2010, which is why reading the entire history was instructive. (And definitely something to pursue in the manner of working through a DVD box set.)

Would you elaborate? Noticeably... backed away? Self consciously and purposively backed away? Why?

It seems to me, looking through the entire history a couple of times, that after the Basilisk, the quantity of free-ranging extrapolation from the basic Sequence memes went right down. The Basilisk was definitely the high point of site weirdness. I didn't see anyone saying "oh shit" out loud, but I don't think it's a remarkable inference to say that they did so collectively.

Comment author: XiXiDu 02 June 2014 08:30:31AM *  0 points [-]

Me since late 2010, which is why reading the entire history was instructive.

Have you attempted reading the SL4 archieves? There are probably some gems in there. From the bit that I've heard and seen, it was at least as weird as LW.

It seems to me, looking through the entire history a couple of times, that after the Basilisk, the quantity of free-ranging extrapolation from the basic Sequence memes went right down. The Basilisk was definitely the high point of site weirdness.

Haha...yeah. It's the reason I started criticizing MIRI/LW. Before I was mainly a lurker, and somewhat of a fan. There are even comments where I advertised LessWrong elsewhere. I even linked to MIRI on my website as far back as 2005. But the basilisk incident opened my eyes for how out of touch with reality and common sense these people really are.

Comment author: David_Gerard 02 June 2014 08:41:22AM 1 point [-]

I think of SL4 and Extropians as the dusty VHS box sets still on the shelves :-)