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For what it's worth I find the SSC comment section pretty unreadable, since it is just a huge jumble of good and bad comments with no way to find the good ones.
There's also a significant amount of astroturfing from various sources that muddies the water further.
?? Such as?
Presumably p-m primarily means the neoreactionaries.
I don't think that's astroturfing; I think it's just that Scott's one of the few semi-prominent writers outside their own sphere who'll talk to NRx types without immediately writing them off as hateful troglodytic cranks. Which is to his credit, really.
That's fair, but I think it was probably what paper-machine was referring to.
More or less. They're not the only ones, of course, but perhaps they're the most obvious.
I wouldn't call that astroturfing, I'd say that's more wanting anyone to talk to. The lack of a rating system means people don't get downvoted to obvlion, instead they get banned if they break the house rules badly enough. (I'm surprised James A. Donald lasted as long as he did there.)
I don't know what "that" you and Nornagest are referring to, so I have no way of knowing if "that" is really astroturfing or not. On the other hand, six comments about the appropriateness of a single word seems like overkill. On the gripping hand, it appears the community wants more of it, so by all means, continue.
I meant that I haven't seen any strong evidence of astroturfing on SSC (by the conventional definition of "a deceptive campaign to create the appearance of popular support for a position, usually involving sockpuppets or other proxies"), and that the presence of an unusually large and diverse neoreactionary contingent is more easily explained by the reasons I gave.
What did you mean by it? NRx, sure, but what about them, and who're the others you alluded to upthread? If we're just arguing over definitions, giving them explicitly seems like the best way to drive a stake into the argument's heart -- and if you've noticed some bad behavior that I haven't, I'd like to know about that too.
I mean the neoreactionaries on SSC.