My preference is rule of law (which also makes sense as an instrumental value), I suspect yours is too.
For nation states with a monopoly on power I consider the rule of law to be valuable but I don't consider it to be a terminal value for online communities or when I host a party. In most social interaction punishing people for violating implicit community norms is quite common.
The person who engages in the block downvoting might even think of themselves as punishing someone else for doing something bad.
I don't understand. TDT isn't my practical decision theory (I'm a meatbag, not an abstract agent), nor did I bring it up. Nor is it applicable anyways.
If it isn't applicable then what's wrong with TDT? How do we fix it?
Even if you don't personally follow TDT, you are here on LW and while you are here making the argument that the policies you are advocated make sense under TDT has merits if you want to convince others.
Let's stop with the reference class tennis. This community does have established and explicit rules, such as "no proposing violence, not even hypothetically". It is not like one of your parties, I suspect. And while you may tell someone to leave you alone, or to get out, I wouldn't say that official punishments against breaking inofficial "norms" are the rule. At least hopefully nowhere I'd like to be. Note how this community has grappled time and again with coming up with a clearly defined norm on this, which would decohere the congrue...
Below is a message I just got from jackk. Some specifics have been redacted 1) so that we can discuss general policy rather than the details of this specific case 2) because presumption of innocence, just in case there happens to be an innocuous explanation to this.
So... thoughts? I have mod powers, but when I was granted them I was basically just told to use them to fight spam; there was never any discussion of any other policy, and I don't feel like I have the authority to decide on the suitable course of action without consulting the rest of the community.