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Comment author: David_Gerard 06 June 2014 08:54:02PM 11 points [-]

Tricky one. I had a look at the Facebook group and was slightly horrified. You know all the weird extrapolations-from-sequences lunacy we don't get any more at LW? Yeah, it's all there. I think because there are no downvotes there.

Comment author: moridinamael 06 June 2014 09:34:16PM *  0 points [-]

That's true, but there are other salient differences between Facebook and LessWrong. Like the fact the Facebook has a picture of your real face right there, incentivizing everyone to play nice, while we are hobbled with only aliases here. Or the absence of a nested discussion threading system on Facebook. Or the fact the Eliezer posts on Facebook all the time now and rarely here anymore. But I tend to agree that the aversiveness of karma drives people away.

Comment author: fubarobfusco 07 June 2014 04:45:48AM 8 points [-]

Like the fact the Facebook has a picture of your real face right there, incentivizing everyone to play nice, while we are hobbled with only aliases here.

My impression is that real-names-and-faces systems incentivize everyone to play to their expected audience's biases, not to be nice. If the audience enjoys being nasty to someone, real-names-and-faces systems strongly disincentivize expressions of toleration.

Comment author: David_Gerard 07 June 2014 09:44:06AM 8 points [-]

The very nastiest trolls I've encountered really just do not give a shit. Name, address, phone number, all publicly available.

Comment author: David_Gerard 07 June 2014 06:31:09AM *  7 points [-]

Like the fact the Facebook has a picture of your real face right there, incentivizing everyone to play nice

This is the "real names make people nicer online" claim, which is one of those ideas people keep putting forth and for which there is no evidence it works this way. I say there is no evidence because every time it comes up I ask for some (and particularly during the G+ nymwars) and don't get any, but if you have some I'd love to see it.

edit: and by the way, here's my "photo".

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 07 June 2014 10:20:59AM 2 points [-]

Using a photograph of yourself on Facebook is optional.