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28 Post author: Kaj_Sotala 06 June 2014 05:46AM

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Comment author: drethelin 06 July 2014 06:33:02PM 0 points [-]

Eugine DID get told that. If you look at the recent thread with Kaj, he allegedly talked to Eugine, and told him to stop.

You're right that my opinion isn't really more valid than yours.

Comment author: MugaSofer 07 July 2014 06:09:53PM *  1 point [-]

If you look at the recent thread with Kaj, he allegedly talked to Eugine, and told him to stop.

Huhm.

I got the impression that Eugine was asked to explain his actions, then banned when he did not reveal mitigating circumstances:

As previously discussed, on June 6th I received a message from jackk, a Trike Admin. He reported that the user Jiro had asked Trike to carry out an investigation to the retributive downvoting that Jiro had been subjected to. The investigation revealed that the user Eugine_Nier had downvoted over half of Jiro's comments, amounting to hundreds of downvotes.

I asked the community's guidance on dealing with the issue, and while the matter was being discussed, I also reviewed previous discussions about mass downvoting and looked for other people who mentioned being the victims of it. I asked Jack to compile reports on several other users who mentioned having been mass-downvoted, and it turned out that Eugine was also overwhelmingly the biggest downvoter of users David_Gerard, daenarys, falenas108, ialdabaoth, shminux, and Tenoke. As this discussion was going on, it turned out that user Ander had also been targeted by Eugine.

I sent two messages to Eugine, requesting an explanation. I received a response today. Eugine admitted his guilt, expressing the opinion that LW's karma system was failing to carry out its purpose of keeping out weak material and that he was engaged in a "weeding" of users who he did not think displayed sufficient rationality.

Needless to say, it is not the place of individual users to unilaterally decide that someone else should be "weeded" out of the community.

I don't think he was asked to stop and refused - although I admit it would be nice to see the relevant messages, rather than Kaj's secondhand description.