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3 Post author: MathiasZaman 17 June 2014 08:10PM

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Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 17 June 2014 10:26:48PM 3 points [-]

That calls for a poll. I take the freedom to add some points to your list.

In the poll below don't assume that all attributes must fit to a single sport but instead might be matched by a set of sports. Best not to imagine a specific sports idea but rather what you require of proposals here.

Rationalist sports should...

have a low rate of accidents

Agree Disagree

have cardiovascular benefits

Agree Disagree

aid muscle development

Agree Disagree

train muscle and motion control

Agree Disagree

include social interaction

Agree Disagree

help develop confidence

Agree Disagree

include mental tasks

Agree Disagree

be easy to learn

Agree Disagree

be fun

Agree Disagree

improve balance

Agree Disagree

train reflexes

Agree Disagree

useful for self-defense

Agree Disagree

train spatial navigation

Agree Disagree

use multi tasking

Agree Disagree

be pleasant for spectators

Agree Disagree

contain pauses

Agree Disagree

have a duration of X minutes

And for the sceptics:

The whole idea of a physical rationalist sport is bullshit

Agree Disagree

The whole idea of a mental rationalist sport is bullshit

Agree Disagree

Submitting...

Comment author: [deleted] 18 June 2014 01:28:45PM *  6 points [-]

Maybe we're trying to solve too many problems at the same time. In analogy with Purchase Fuzzies and Utilons Separately, I'd guess that the activity that best promotes physical fitness isn't the activity that best trains transferable skills isn't the activity that is the most fun, so spending some time on something intended to improve physical fitness, some time on something intended to train transferable skills and some time on something intended to be fun is probably better than spending a lot of time on something that haphazardly tries to achieve all three. (Also, which activity is best for a given goal is likely to vary from person to person, so beware of other-optimizing.)

Comment author: MathiasZaman 18 June 2014 03:04:02PM 1 point [-]

Training in organized sport often gives you the benefit of increasing physical fitness, even if it isn't the core of that particular sport. I play baseball and some part of our training is increasing our general fitness, even if we don't particularly need that in the field.

Apart from that, I think you might be on to something.

Comment author: iarwain1 17 June 2014 11:44:42PM 1 point [-]

I couldn't vote on any of these because it's going to depend on each individual and what they need from sports. I might want to play sports for the exercise value, but others might already have an exercise routine in place and they'd want it e.g. for the relaxation value. I might need it to be fun and easy to learn or I won't end up doing it, while the more competitive amongst us might require lots of competition and/or lots of spectators to cheer them on.