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chaosmage comments on Depression's evolutionary roots - Less Wrong Discussion

5 Post author: TobyBartels 18 June 2014 07:37AM

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Comment author: chaosmage 18 June 2014 08:33:08AM *  1 point [-]

If that were true, psychotherapy (especially psychotherapy focused on the patient's relationships) would always work. (Incidentally, at least on the authors is a psychiatrist in private practice, who would want to believe that.) That isn't the case.

I think the rank theory of depression, while similarly characterized by evolutionary/speculative reasoning, makes a lot more sense.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 18 June 2014 09:46:29AM *  3 points [-]

Something having evolved because it's adaptive in the cases when it's temporary doesn't mean that trying to treat its non-temporary manifestations would always work. The mechanism that was normally supposed to bring us out of depression could be broken.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 18 June 2014 10:18:09AM 1 point [-]

The mechanism that prevents other people from denegrating someone who already looks downcast could break too.

Comment author: MarkL 18 June 2014 10:28:43AM 2 points [-]

Psychotherapy wouldn't work if working with the psychotherapist didn't elicit a workable solution. I've intermittently found psychotherapy to be very helpful, but it doesn't always solve the problem for which I went to psychotherapy for.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 18 June 2014 11:39:34AM *  1 point [-]

Could it somehow be both? Maybe if you have lower status, solving complex problems becomes relatively more important, because you have less alternative opportunities. For higher-status people, even when they are capable of solving problems, letting other people solve problems and just taking their stuff is probably more profitable. Losing status could imply that you should switch to problem-solving mode, because that's the way to be useful to your new masters (and your quality of life now depends on their opinions).