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Comment author: brazil84 23 June 2014 03:49:16PM *  2 points [-]

But here's the conundrum, as was mentioned in one of the other sub-threads: how do I convince you of that, without walking you through the steps involved in creating an UFAI? If I am right, I would then have posted on the internet blueprints for the destruction of humankind. Then the race would really be on.

That's assuming people take you seriously. Even if your plan is solid, probably most people will write you off as another Crackpot Who Thinks He's Solved an Important Problem.

But I do agree it's a bit of a conundrum. If you have what you think is an important idea, it's natural to worry that people will either (1) steal your idea or (2) criticize it not because it's not a great idea but because they want to feel superior.

Comment author: [deleted] 23 June 2014 05:04:33PM 0 points [-]

But I do agree it's a bit of a conundrum. If you have what you think is an important idea, it's natural to worry that people will either (1) steal your idea or (2) criticize it not because it's not a great idea but because they want to feel superior.

I think you entirely missed the point.

Comment author: brazil84 23 June 2014 06:09:30PM 1 point [-]

I think you entirely missed the point.

I would agree with this in the sense that my stated reasons for the "conundrum" are a bit different from yours.

Comment author: [deleted] 23 June 2014 06:26:50PM 0 points [-]

Well perhaps instead of insinuating motives, you could share your thoughts about the actual stated reason? At what point does one have a moral obligation not to share information about a dangerous idea on a public forum?

Comment author: brazil84 24 June 2014 12:49:27AM 1 point [-]

Well perhaps instead of insinuating motives,

I was thinking of my own motives in similar situations, sorry if you took it as a characterization of yours. I do see it could have been read that way.

you could share your thoughts about the actual stated reason?

I would suggest you e-mail your blueprint to a few of the posters here with the understanding they keep it to themselves. If even one long-term poster says "I've read Friedenbach's arguments and while they are confidential, I now agree that his estimate of the time to AI is actually pretty good," then I think your argument is starting to become persuasive.

Comment author: [deleted] 24 June 2014 12:51:28AM *  0 points [-]

Sorry I didn't mean to come off so abrasively either. I was just being unduly snarky. The internet is not good for conveying emotional state :\

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