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Emile comments on Open thread, 30 June 2014- 6 July 2014 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Emile 01 July 2014 08:03:11PM 2 points [-]

Power?

"Humans act as if they had power as a terminal value" probably matches reality better than "Humans act as if they had happiness as a terminal value".

My original suggestion was "knowledge", but that may make you equally value knowing Pokemon trivia - I value useful knowledge, not any old knowledge, which seems to be another way of saying I value (a form of) power.

Though also, I don't see much of a reason to care about "terminal values" except when talking about maths and economics and decision theories and the like - any talk of "terminal values" is highly uncertain and likely to be wrong, so it's not something I'd take to heart.

Comment author: DanielLC 01 July 2014 10:04:16PM 5 points [-]

That feels too much like lost purposes. "Power" refers to something that can be used to fulfill values in general.

It's the sort of thing you'd acquire if you haven't figured out what you really want.

Comment author: [deleted] 03 July 2014 03:53:13PM *  1 point [-]

It's the sort of thing you'd acquire if you haven't figured out what you really want.

You should watch House of Cards.

Comment author: Nornagest 01 July 2014 08:37:06PM 0 points [-]

Preferences revealed through e.g. Wikipedia's history suggest that people put a surprisingly high value on Pokemon trivia relative to more useful but less entertaining information, at least when it comes to investing time in compiling and reading it.