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gwern comments on Downvote stalkers: Driving members away from the LessWrong community? - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: gwern 03 July 2014 05:39:18PM 1 point [-]

On Facebook, you can't stop OTHER people from seeing what the person has to say, no matter how much you scream at them. With the system here, you can.

Can't you? Eliezer cites the easiness of clicking a button and making the other person Go Away as a major perceived advantage of posting on FB rather than LW. And even if you downvote someone on LW, well, someone can undo that with an upvote.

Comment author: EGarrett 03 July 2014 06:59:51PM 0 points [-]

Hi gwern, I'm not sure exactly what you mean. In Facebook groups, you can ignore someone, but the person in question can still participate in discussions that don't involve you, or discuss what you've said outside of your own threads. I think this is actually a good thing, since it lets you avoid unconstructive people, but doesn't allow you to censor people from being heard by others if that person has something valuable to add.

Regarding downvoting vs upvoting, counteracting mass downvoters (who apparently have gone to the extent of downvoting someone over 1000 times) is a huge burden on other people and not something they should have to do.

Comment author: gwern 03 July 2014 07:12:06PM 2 points [-]

In Facebook groups, you can ignore someone, but the person in question can still participate in discussions that don't involve you, or discuss what you've said outside of your own threads.

I believe Eliezer was referring to starting posts. So the question is, which is better, a banhappy omnipotent OP or gradual undoable community moderation?

counteracting mass downvoters (who apparently have gone to the extent of downvoting someone over 1000 times) is a huge burden on other people and not something they should have to do.

And indeed, it's not something that happens often. Eugine is so far the only person to be banned for mass downvoting in the ~5 year history of a very active site.

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