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Stuart_Armstrong comments on [moderator action] Eugine_Nier is now banned for mass downvote harassment - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 04 July 2014 10:22:07AM *  9 points [-]

I had a brief period of block down votes (it was obvious, as only old comments were being downvoted, and it was a continual, regular process), but it passed quickly.

I think the ban was justified because of the number of people targeted. Going after one person is bad, but vendettas are understandable (if not approved). But going after huge amounts of people... Well, there we have to multiply.

As for those deploring the ban, I can see your deontological position, but do you think that Less Wrong is going to become measurably worse because of this decision?

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 04 July 2014 02:30:49PM *  7 points [-]

As for those deploring the ban, I can see your deontological position, but do you think that Less Wrong is going to become measurably worse because of this decision?

I've been thinking of the ban as deontological-- the premise is that Eugene has shown himself to be a sufficiently bad sort of person that he just isn't worth having around.

Perhaps it's a matter of competing deontological frameworks.

Comment author: Nornagest 04 July 2014 07:56:09PM *  4 points [-]

<nitpick> Surely that's virtue-ethical, not deontological? </nitpick>

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 04 July 2014 08:06:37PM 1 point [-]

You may be right. I thought deontogical covers all "do the right thing no matter what happens" systems.

Comment author: MugaSofer 07 July 2014 09:19:33PM *  1 point [-]

I think the ban was justified because of the number of people targeted. Going after one person is bad, but vendettas are understandable (if not approved). But going after huge amounts of people... Well, there we have to multiply.

Why? Seriously asking. I see no evidence that we were somehow powerless to stop this without banning him.

But if that were the case I would definitely be in favor of doing so.

As for those deploring the ban, I can see your deontological position, but do you think that Less Wrong is going to become measurably worse because of this decision?

Well ... yeah. Worse by one user.

(It's not as if his contributions were terrible, remember, a troll that we're well rid of - Eugine was a high-karma user, that's how he was able to downvote so many comments.)