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brazil84 comments on [moderator action] Eugine_Nier is now banned for mass downvote harassment - Less Wrong Discussion

107 Post author: Kaj_Sotala 03 July 2014 12:04PM

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Comment author: brazil84 05 July 2014 01:08:56PM 3 points [-]

Does the system tell you when the downvotes were made?

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 06 July 2014 04:16:32AM 0 points [-]

The report jackk gave me doesn't, at least. I don't know whether that information would be available aomewhere.

Comment author: brazil84 11 July 2014 07:36:11AM 2 points [-]

Followup: So will you take the actions I suggested? They seem pretty simple and easy and I can't think of why you wouldn't do them if your true reason is doubt.

Thank you :)

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 11 July 2014 12:02:51PM 3 points [-]

The main reason is that digging up the information about the specific downvotes would be more work for jackk and I'm not sure how burdened he is with the work that he's already doing. (Also more work for me.) But I'll ask him once he gets done with the current stuff he's doing for this whole thing.

Comment author: brazil84 06 September 2014 03:24:05PM 1 point [-]

Have you asked him? It's been a couple months now. TIA.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 13 September 2014 01:38:49PM 3 points [-]

No, I'm sorry. You could ask Viliam_Bur to do it.

Comment author: brazil84 15 September 2014 08:41:28AM -1 points [-]

No, I'm sorry. You could ask Viliam_Bur to do it.

I did, but why not? I have a hypothesis but it's not very flattering to you.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 15 September 2014 06:54:00PM 4 points [-]

General ughy feelings around doing anything related to downvote investigations and an unwillingness to do anything that would cause me to spend more time doing them. Possible reasons for those ughy feelings include an aversion to doing anything confrontational (including punishing mass downvoters), a high uncertainty of what should be considered unacceptable behavior and low confidence in my ability to accurately determine what counts as karmassassination, and an unwillingness to bother people (including jackk) unless absolutely necessary. Not all of those reasons necessarily applied in your case, but it was close enough to trigger the emotional association.

Comment author: brazil84 16 September 2014 08:48:23AM 3 points [-]

General ughy feelings around doing anything related to downvote investigations and an unwillingness to do anything that would cause me to spend more time doing them. Possible reasons for those ughy feelings include an aversion to doing anything confrontational (including punishing mass downvoters), a high uncertainty of what should be considered unacceptable behavior and low confidence in my ability to accurately determine what counts as karmassassination, and an unwillingness to bother people (including jackk) unless absolutely necessary. Not all of those reasons necessarily applied in your case, but it was close enough to trigger the emotional association.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the persons who downvoted me a lot have significantly more popular views than those of Eugine_Nier.

Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 16 September 2014 04:34:36PM 1 point [-]

I don't actually remember who the people who downvoted you are. I'd have to look them up again.

Comment author: brazil84 06 July 2014 03:46:01PM 0 points [-]

The report jackk gave me doesn't, at least. I don't know whether that information would be available aomewhere.

Then what I would do is this: First, ask if there is a record of the time of the downvotes. If there were a large number over a short time period, you can be very confident that it's karmassassination.

If that information isn't available, then just look at my posts which were downvoted by Senor 150 and compare it to my actual chronological posting history. If there is a long string of chronologically uninterrupted downvotes, you can be very confident that it's karmassassination.