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David_Gerard comments on [LINK] Another "LessWrongers are crazy" article - this time on Slate - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: David_Gerard 20 July 2014 02:26:17PM *  2 points [-]

One of the problems is that the basilisk is very weird, but the prerequisites - which are mostly straight out of the Sequences - are also individually weird. So explaining the basilisk to people who haven't read the Sequences through a few times and haven't been reading LessWrong for years is ... a bit of work.

Comment author: Jiro 21 July 2014 07:58:53PM 0 points [-]

Presumably, you don't believe the basilisk would work.

If you don't believe the basilisk would work, then it really doesn't matter all that much that people don't understand the prerequisites. After all, even understanding the prerequisites won't change their opinion of whether the basilisk is correct. (I suppose that understanding the sequences may change the degree of incorrectness--going from crazy and illogical to just normally illogical--but I've yet to see anyone argue this.)

Comment author: David_Gerard 22 July 2014 10:17:51AM 1 point [-]

Are you saying it's meaningless to tell someone about the prerequisites - which, as I note, are pretty much straight out of the Sequences - unless they think the basilisk would work?

Comment author: Jiro 22 July 2014 03:37:49PM 1 point [-]

It's not meaningless in general, but it's meaningless for the purpose of deciding that they shouldn't see the basilisk because they'd misunderstand it. They don't misunderstand it--they know that it's false, and if they read the sequences they'd still know that it's false.

As I pointed out, you could still argue that they'd misunderstand the degree to which the basilisk is false, but I've yet to see anyone argue that.