Outside of those, there's no sufficient grounding for what should be sought or avoided.
And how do you know that?
Human range of emotional states is considerably more complicated than a single pain - pleasure axis.
And how do you know that?
Because I wouldn't know what it would mean for a situation to be good or desirable except in relation to pleasure/pain. It seems to be a contradiction in terms.
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