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Comment author: blacktrance 22 July 2014 04:38:05AM -1 points [-]

You may be able to verbally declare that kind of value if the situation is contrived enough for you to be thrown into 'far-mode' (abstract philosophical thinking) and can reframe everything into idealised hedonistic terms but if the scenario were more subtle and presented in a non-philosophical context you would act more like an actual human being.

You've set this up for me to be impossible to refute, because no matter what I say, you can just say, "You're verbalizing in far mode, so I don't believe you". FWIW, if there were a being to be wired in such a way, that being would have no reason to care about the slaughter of innocents.

Comment author: wedrifid 22 July 2014 05:11:03AM 0 points [-]

You've set this up for me to be impossible to refute, because no matter what I say, you can just say, "You're verbalizing in far mode, so I don't believe you".

You aren't set up. To the extent that it would be difficult to repute by counterexample I consider the lack of a counter-example to be overwhelmingly weak evidence. I'm not entitled to that particular proof.

FWIW, if there were a being to be wired in such a way, that being would have no reason to care about the slaughter of innocents.

No reason and no capability. FWIW I do believe you might be inclined to self modifying into a being with your expressed preferences if given that opportunity.

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