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blacktrance comments on Value ethics vs. agency ethics - Less Wrong Discussion

-1 [deleted] 26 July 2014 07:34AM

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Comment author: [deleted] 26 July 2014 08:49:53AM *  0 points [-]

I'm not sure what your point is. Infringing on someone's agency is defecting and we defect not only against people who defect against us but also against those we observe defecting against others. So it's most certainly not Ok. But defecting against a defector does not sanction my defecting against a non-defector.

Edit: maybe an example scenario would help.

Comment author: DanielLC 26 July 2014 10:52:52PM 1 point [-]

My point is that if defecting against innocents is bad, it would be reasonable to minimize the amount of defection against innocents.

Comment author: [deleted] 27 July 2014 07:15:49AM 0 points [-]

if defecting against innocents is bad, it would be reasonable to minimize the amount of defection against innocents.

By defecting against an innocent which makes defecting against an innocent not bad in contradiction to the assumption. You're running into a paradox.

Comment author: DanielLC 27 July 2014 06:44:31PM 2 points [-]

All choices involve someone defecting against an innocent. I figured I'd go with the least bad choice.