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skeptical_lurker comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, July 2014, chapter 102 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: [deleted] 27 July 2014 10:01:33AM 1 point [-]

it's about reducing the utility of everyone in the country

What? If an employer is willing to hire the immigrant, this means that his labour is more valuable to her than her money, and if a grocer is willing to sell him food, this means that his money is more valuable to her than her food, so it'd seem like the immigrant is providing positive net value to the original population of the country, isn't him?

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 27 July 2014 02:22:53PM *  1 point [-]

The UK, like pretty much every other country in the world, does not run on a pure capitalist economy.

Comment author: ThisSpaceAvailable 02 August 2014 04:54:41AM *  0 points [-]

What do you mean by that? That there are externalities?

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 02 August 2014 07:47:18AM 2 points [-]

A common argument against immigration is that immigrants are a drain on the welfare state. I don't think this is true in the average case, but it can't be dismissed solely from first principles of an efficient market.

Comment author: [deleted] 02 August 2014 08:01:31AM 0 points [-]

In principle you could let some person in without giving them any welfare benefits.

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 02 August 2014 08:12:27AM 2 points [-]

Yes, and without access to taxpayer funded schools etc. We could talk about a hypothetical AnCap UK, but this isn't going to happen in the foreseeable future.