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11 Post author: Wei_Dai 13 August 2014 11:19AM

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Comment author: [deleted] 13 August 2014 05:05:36PM 7 points [-]

Speaking as someone who is far more intelligent than rational I think it boils down to system 1 vs system 2. Intelligence then is how fast your system 2 thinking is and how many constraints you can keep in your head while thinking things through. Rationality on the other hand is how good your system 1 is in knowing when to defer to system 2 (noticing your confusion) and how easily the results of your system 2 thinking get integrated into system 1. Both things in which I regularly fail even though when I deliberately focus on something I can usually think more complex things through than most other people.

Comment author: Azathoth123 14 August 2014 03:37:23AM 6 points [-]

I would rather argue Rationality is the extant to which the software your system 2 is running is epistemologically sound.

Comment author: [deleted] 14 August 2014 05:37:29AM 0 points [-]

That's certainly part of it. I still remember using my intelligence to defend my religious believes. However, the best epistemology is useless unless you act on it.

Comment author: Vulture 14 August 2014 12:43:32PM 1 point [-]

I believe Wei is specifically talking about epistemic rationality, though.

Comment author: [deleted] 17 August 2014 09:27:47AM 0 points [-]

You're right. I was missing the point.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 13 August 2014 06:22:47PM 3 points [-]

System 2 can be much crazier than System 1, so it's not just about integration between them, content also matters a great deal.

Comment author: shminux 13 August 2014 05:16:40PM *  1 point [-]

I like your description. If you take a hypothetical AI which does not have the System 1/System 2 partition humans do, there is no difference between intelligence and rationality, only the overall optimization power.