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Manfred comments on Open thread, Sept. 1-7, 2014 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Manfred 02 September 2014 12:18:01PM 3 points [-]

The whole point of instrumental drives is that they don't have to be in the utility function.

Comment author: Transfuturist 03 September 2014 09:25:10PM 1 point [-]

Yes, I know; they're convergent. I'm questioning what aberglas is arguing against with his Darwinist supergoal. It doesn't make sense to say that such a supergoal is mutually exclusive with the independence of utility and optimization power. It makes more sense to say that the supergoal is an alternative to Omohundro's instrumental drives.

I don't see how what aberglas wrote makes coherent sense.

Comment author: aberglas 29 September 2014 06:07:12AM 0 points [-]

Well, alternative if you like. I will post an elaboration as a full article.