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Lumifer comments on Open thread, September 8-14, 2014 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Lumifer 11 September 2014 05:18:17PM *  7 points [-]

I've always been a huge non-conformist

You have a couple of graduate degrees and are a professor at a liberal arts college in the Northeast... People I would describe as "huge non-conformists" would probably be tailed by campus security if they ever showed up in the area X-D

Comment author: James_Miller 11 September 2014 05:55:52PM 3 points [-]
Comment author: Lumifer 11 September 2014 06:07:16PM *  4 points [-]

Oh, I know you're a conservative in academia and had tenure troubles because of that. But that makes you a conservative in very liberal environment, not a non-conformist.

Of course you can call yourself anything you want to and the label is sufficiently fuzzy and could be defined in many ways. Still, from my perspective you're now a part of the establishment -- Smith did grant you tenure, even if screaming and kicking.

I am not passing judgement on you, it just surprised me that what you mean by a "huge non-conformist" is clearly very different from what I mean by a "huge non-conformist".

Comment author: James_Miller 11 September 2014 06:17:15PM *  4 points [-]

It's also stuff such as I don't like sports, music, fashion, or small talk, and in high school and college made zero effort to pay attention to them and it cost me socially. I realize now I should have at least pretended to like them to have had a better social life.

Comment author: Lumifer 11 September 2014 06:26:04PM 7 points [-]

It's also stuff such as I don't like sports, music, fashion, or small talk

That makes you a fully-conforming geek, as you undoubtedly know. Welcome to the club :-)

Comment author: cameroncowan 11 September 2014 07:31:00PM 3 points [-]

I figured out when I was about 15 years old that I had to keep on things I didn't care about to earn points socially and it helped me a great deal and powers what I do as a writer and talk show presenter.