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What do you guys think about having an ideas/brainstorming section? I don't see too much brainstorming of ideas here. Most posts seem to be very refined thoughts. What about a place to brainstorm some of the less refined thoughts?
This seems to be LW's collected wisdom on the matter.
http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Futility_of_chaos
Brainstorming does not rely on chaos. It's a method of using System 1 which delays any censoring by System 2.
Some evidence of LW beliefs about it: here and here. CFAR teaches people to brainstorm more often.
I'm a bit confused by what is meant by futility of chaos so forgive me if I misinterpreted it. Let me try to be a bit more clear about what I'm proposing and let me know if futility of chaos addresses it.
I'm saying that there are ideas that you think are worth brainstorming, and there are ideas that you feel confident enough about to write a post about to get some feedback. Right now it seems that people don't post about the "ideas worth brainstorming" and I suspect that it'd be beneficial if they did and we discussed them.
Futility of chaos seems to be addressing more "chaotic and random" ideas. I don't know enough about math to really know what that means, but I sense that it's different from ideas that smart people on LW judge to be worth brainstorming.
Brainstorming is too unstructured and unpredictable, a form of "creative disorder" that has received more credit than it deserves.
What about discussing ideas that you think have a decent shot at being good and important, but that you can't explain fully and still aren't that confident in?
Sure, that's what the open thread is for.
I haven't spent enough time commenting on LW to be sure enough of this, but it doesn't seemed to be used that way. Do you think it's used that way? If not, perhaps it would be beneficial to make it more clear that it can/should be used that way.
Also, maybe it'd be a good idea to break the open thread into categories. Eg:
Then start using it this way. You don't need a permission.
LW has periodic discussions about the need / desirability / implementation of a more granular system of organizing posts. So far these discussions have resulted in nothing, apparently "it's too hard to do" (tm).
But again, if you think it's a good idea, just do it and we'll see how that experiment will play out. For an example you can see how the media thread works.
True, but I think permission would be beneficial because I sense that people are hesitant to go against the norms.
I don't think I'm a good enough coder yet to contribute, but I'm starting a coding bootcamp on Monday and I do hope to be able to contribute in the next few months.
Heh. Who, do you think, should be the one to give you the permission? :-) And how do you feel about permission culture in general? X-D
Besides, I don't think there are any strong existing norms about putting brainstorming posts into the open thread.
What would a separate section accomplish that couldn't be done by putting <brainstorm> tags in posts/comments?
Making it explicit that it's available. I think people are hesitant to make such posts because they don't know if doing so is appropriate because it is infrequently done.