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Viliam_Bur comments on Open thread, September 8-14, 2014 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Viliam_Bur 12 September 2014 08:07:52AM 7 points [-]

if you value, say, self-actualization (a la Maslow), retiring early is a bad idea.

If you want want to self-actualize in a way that does not (reliably, or soon enough) bring money, retiring early can be useful.

Comment author: Lumifer 12 September 2014 02:38:47PM *  3 points [-]

I think there's some lack of clarity in this thread about what it means to "retire". There are two interpretations (see e.g. this post):

(1) Retire means financial independence, not having to work for a living, so that you can focus your energy on what you want to do instead of what you have to do.

(2) Retire means a carefree life of leisure where you maximize your hedonics by doing easy and pleasant things and not doing hard and stressful things.

I think these two ways of retiring are quite different and lead to different consequences.

Comment author: Ixiel 12 September 2014 03:14:50PM 1 point [-]

I meant to imply the former, albeit with the possibility "what you want to do" is not restricted from including leisure/hedonics/pleasure.

Comment author: Lumifer 12 September 2014 03:25:00PM 3 points [-]

Technically, yes, though people mostly use (1) to mean doing something purposeful, an activity after which you can point and say "I made that", while (2) is essentially trying to get as close to wireheading as you currently can :-)

Comment author: Ixiel 12 September 2014 03:57:26PM 1 point [-]

Fair enough :)