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Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 14 September 2015 01:24:48PM *  0 points [-]

I've heard it used to be that way, but when I first joined LW around 2011 (under a different account than this one) comments already started from zero, and the tooltip with the % positive wasn't implemented until much later (around 2013 IIRC).

Comment author: brazil84 14 September 2015 04:41:15PM 0 points [-]

% positive wasn't implemented until much later (around 2013 IIRC).

Yes, I agree with this. Anyway, the bottom line is this:

  1. I am very confident that I was karmassasinated or whatever you want to call it. Because I clearly remember having a heated exchange with a couple other posters and right afterwards my karma score dropped a huge amount in a short time, I checked and it was clear that one or more people went back and downvoted lots and lots of my posts in a short span of time.

  2. Apart from my own observations, there is decent evidence that this happened -- otherwise I would not have been mentioned in the earlier thread on this subject.

  3. Viliam_Bur seems quite hostile to any suggestion that it happened to me, it seems he is looking for reasons to deny or downplay it.

  4. The obvious explanation for this is that it's political. The one poster who was banned had politically unpopular views. As I recall, the issue I was karma-killed over was one where I had taken the politically unpopular view.

  5. I do not lose sleep over my karma score or even care about it that much, but what I loath is when politics informs peoples' judgment like this, especially on a discussion board where people are supposed to be on the lookup for this type of behavior.

Comment author: Lumifer 14 September 2015 04:55:45PM 2 points [-]

I do not lose sleep over my karma score or even care about it that much

And so after seven months of being absent from LW you pop up to remind everyone how you were karmassasinated and implying that the moderator was fine with that...

Comment author: brazil84 14 September 2015 07:07:01PM 2 points [-]

And so after seven months of being absent from LW you pop up to remind everyone how you were karmassasinated

Pretty much. Do you think there's a contradiction there?

and implying that the moderator was fine with that...

Implying that political considerations were more important. I have a feeling that the persons who did it are more popular than the fellow who was banned over this stuff.

Comment author: Lumifer 14 September 2015 07:33:27PM 1 point [-]

Do you think there's a contradiction there?

Yes. Specifically, with the "do not .. even care about it that much" part.

Comment author: brazil84 14 September 2015 07:39:58PM 1 point [-]

Yes. Specifically, with the "do not .. even care about it that much" part.

Do you think I am lying or mistaken when I state that what bothers me is the (perceived) political influence on the situation?

Comment author: Lumifer 14 September 2015 08:09:45PM 0 points [-]

I have no basis to judge. And these two things are not exclusive, of course.

Comment author: brazil84 14 September 2015 08:23:05PM 1 point [-]

I have no basis to judge. And these two things are not exclusive, of course.

Ok, so you are reasonably confident that I am wrong, but you do not know whether I am lying or mistaken or both. Why are you so confident?

Comment author: Lumifer 14 September 2015 08:26:28PM 2 points [-]

Because you caring about karma is a simpler explanation that fits my priors well and is entirely consistent with the evidence that I see.

Comment author: brazil84 14 September 2015 08:28:02PM 1 point [-]

Because you caring about karma is a simpler explanation that fits my priors well and is entirely consistent with the evidence that I see.

Would you care to summarize the evidence?