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Comment author: Lumifer 14 September 2015 08:09:45PM 0 points [-]

I have no basis to judge. And these two things are not exclusive, of course.

Comment author: brazil84 14 September 2015 08:23:05PM 1 point [-]

I have no basis to judge. And these two things are not exclusive, of course.

Ok, so you are reasonably confident that I am wrong, but you do not know whether I am lying or mistaken or both. Why are you so confident?

Comment author: Lumifer 14 September 2015 08:26:28PM 2 points [-]

Because you caring about karma is a simpler explanation that fits my priors well and is entirely consistent with the evidence that I see.

Comment author: brazil84 14 September 2015 08:28:02PM 1 point [-]

Because you caring about karma is a simpler explanation that fits my priors well and is entirely consistent with the evidence that I see.

Would you care to summarize the evidence?

Comment author: Lumifer 14 September 2015 08:29:20PM 2 points [-]
  • You came back after seven months of absence to talk about your karma
  • We are having this very conversation
Comment author: brazil84 14 September 2015 08:33:30PM -1 points [-]

You came back after seven months of absence to talk about your karma

Well I also talked about the political issue too, correct?

We are having this very conversation

Have you ever known me not to engage with anyone who asserts I have acted in a contradictory way?

Comment author: Lumifer 14 September 2015 08:37:10PM -2 points [-]

Well I also talked about the political issue too, correct?

Yes. See here :-)

Have you ever known me not to engage with anyone who asserts I have acted in a contradictory way?

I don't know -- I haven't paid that much attention. But are you saying you're entirely free of contradictions..?

Comment author: brazil84 14 September 2015 08:48:44PM 0 points [-]

Yes.

Ok, so this piece of evidence is equally consistent with my caring primarily about the political issue.

I don't know -- I haven't paid that much attention.

Then this piece of evidence isn't so great either. See below.

But are you saying you're entirely free of contradictions..?

Nope, but I have a strong tendency to engage with anyone who makes such an assertion. Mainly because I'm an argumentative person and also somewhat vain, but also because there is a chance I will learn something useful.

In any event, the point is that the fact that I am having this exchange is not evidence of my caring either way -- I argue with pretty much anyone who asserts that my position is contradictory.

Comment author: Lumifer 14 September 2015 08:57:36PM *  -1 points [-]

The evidence, of course is weak. But then I have a fairly strong prior which says that someone who is "an argumentative person and also somewhat vain" will care about proxies for respect and status -- such as karma -- more than about political possibly-issues at a forum he does not frequent any more.

Comment author: brazil84 14 September 2015 09:01:42PM 0 points [-]

But then I have a fairly strong prior which says that someone who is "an argumentative person and also somewhat vain" will care about proxies for respect and status -- such as karma -- more than about political possibly-issues at a forum he does not frequent any more.

When did you become confident that I was an argumentative person and also somewhat vain?

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