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Comment author: brazil84 14 September 2015 08:28:02PM 1 point [-]

Because you caring about karma is a simpler explanation that fits my priors well and is entirely consistent with the evidence that I see.

Would you care to summarize the evidence?

Comment author: Lumifer 14 September 2015 08:29:20PM 2 points [-]
  • You came back after seven months of absence to talk about your karma
  • We are having this very conversation
Comment author: brazil84 14 September 2015 08:33:30PM -1 points [-]

You came back after seven months of absence to talk about your karma

Well I also talked about the political issue too, correct?

We are having this very conversation

Have you ever known me not to engage with anyone who asserts I have acted in a contradictory way?

Comment author: Lumifer 14 September 2015 08:37:10PM -2 points [-]

Well I also talked about the political issue too, correct?

Yes. See here :-)

Have you ever known me not to engage with anyone who asserts I have acted in a contradictory way?

I don't know -- I haven't paid that much attention. But are you saying you're entirely free of contradictions..?

Comment author: brazil84 14 September 2015 08:48:44PM 0 points [-]

Yes.

Ok, so this piece of evidence is equally consistent with my caring primarily about the political issue.

I don't know -- I haven't paid that much attention.

Then this piece of evidence isn't so great either. See below.

But are you saying you're entirely free of contradictions..?

Nope, but I have a strong tendency to engage with anyone who makes such an assertion. Mainly because I'm an argumentative person and also somewhat vain, but also because there is a chance I will learn something useful.

In any event, the point is that the fact that I am having this exchange is not evidence of my caring either way -- I argue with pretty much anyone who asserts that my position is contradictory.

Comment author: Lumifer 14 September 2015 08:57:36PM *  -1 points [-]

The evidence, of course is weak. But then I have a fairly strong prior which says that someone who is "an argumentative person and also somewhat vain" will care about proxies for respect and status -- such as karma -- more than about political possibly-issues at a forum he does not frequent any more.

Comment author: brazil84 14 September 2015 09:01:42PM 0 points [-]

But then I have a fairly strong prior which says that someone who is "an argumentative person and also somewhat vain" will care about proxies for respect and status -- such as karma -- more than about political possibly-issues at a forum he does not frequent any more.

When did you become confident that I was an argumentative person and also somewhat vain?

Comment author: Lumifer 14 September 2015 09:13:03PM -1 points [-]

The argumentativeness was always visible, as to "vain", your previous comment was very convenient :-) but you never looked like you were indifferent to your image.

Comment author: brazil84 14 September 2015 09:33:03PM 0 points [-]

The argumentativeness was always visible, as to "vain", your previous comment was very convenient :-) but you never looked like you were indifferent to your image.

Ok, so let's see if I have your argument straight:

Someone who is argumentative and not indifferent to his image probably cares a great deal about his karma score, to the point where even weak evidence leads to a high degree of confidence that a complaint which relates to karma is primarily due to his concern for his karma score per se and no other considerations.

Does that pretty much sum it up?

Comment author: Lumifer 14 September 2015 11:36:26PM -1 points [-]

Does that pretty much sum it up?

No, not quite. Would you like to extract the straw you stuffed into that paragraph and try again?